(May 26, 2016 at 12:54 am)Godschild Wrote:(May 25, 2016 at 9:35 pm)Jehanne Wrote: The Romans can and did execute any non-Roman citizens "on a whim". What happened is that Jesus, who was born in Nazareth, was a Jewish apocalyptic preacher who "prophesied" that "the Son of Man" would come to destroy the Roman empire. Some of his followers in Galilee encouraged him to take his message down south to Jerusalem, where he got arrested by the Romans after causing a ruckus in the Temple; after a brief examination, he was sentenced to execution, likely, with the approval of the Jewish authorities. He and Pilate, the Govenor, probably never even met.
Where did you dig up this bunch of falsehoods, I mean really the disciples talk Jesus into anything, that's a laugh. The gospels tell us that Jesus did the will of the Father, over and over and over. Jesus said, I do the will of the Father and not my own, so He certainly wasn't going to listen to His disciples. He actually rebuked the when they spoke out of the will of the Father.
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The Gospels are not reliable history, although, the synoptics, Mark especially, do contain some authentic teachings of Jesus; it is likely that John was a completely emblished theological work that contains no true sayings of Jesus. The author of that Gospel did not even care about the historical record.
As Jesus was just a human being like you or me (especially, with some significant mental health problems and largely ignorant of the World & Universe), it stands to reason that he was persuaded by others to do different things; in fact, Mark records these events:
Quote:Mark 3:21 And when his family heard it, they went out to seize him, for people were saying, "He is beside himself."
People who knew Jesus thought that he was loopy, for he thought that the end of the World would happen during his lifetime:
Quote:Mark 9:1 And he said to them, "Truly, I say to you, there are some standing here who will not taste death before they see that the kingdom of God has come with power."