RE: Someone stole the body!
May 29, 2016 at 12:38 am
(This post was last modified: May 29, 2016 at 12:39 am by Redbeard The Pink.)
(May 28, 2016 at 1:05 pm)Godschild Wrote:(May 23, 2016 at 9:58 am)Redbeard The Pink Wrote: Sorry, Drickleberry, but that still doesn't count for several possibilities.
For one, the body might not have made it to the tomb because the Romans just decided to pitch it instead of handing it over to Joseph of Aramathea. It could have been stolen by someone who wasn't a follower. It could have been stolen by a minor follower who didn't tell anyone else.
Or maybe it's just a story. Or 4 stories that differ from each other wildly, especially when we get to the important part (the ending).
Okay, let's get something straight, the only source we have of what happened is the Bible and you can't haven't and never will prove they are wrong, people have tried for 2000 years and all have failed.
2 things. First, misplaced burden of proof. It is not up to me to prove your assertions wrong. It is up to you to demonstrate their truth via evidence. Second...bullshit. The Flood didn't happen, the creation account is wrong, Moses and Joseph of the Technicolor Dreamcoat were not real people, the Jews were never enslaved in large numbers in Egypt (nor did they all flee and wander the nearby desert for 40 years), and we can prove all of that. You just don't accept it because it would really, really fuck up your whole world view. Like, BIG time.
Quote:Now using the source we have the Romans did not take the body to the tomb and discard it in a ditch, they would not have disobeyed a direct order from Pilate, that would have meant death for them. The tomb was sealed and guarded by the Romans, they would not have been guarding an empty tomb, they weren't stupid. The Priest would not have let the tomb be sealed without the body, that would have inspired an empty tomb which they were determined to stop, they would have been there to make sure the body was sealed in the tomb. If the Romans had of thrown the body in a ditch then they could have gone back and produced that body to show there was no resurrection, well maybe, Jesus was going to rise no matter where his body was put, but to fulfill prophecy it was buried in a tomb. You are doing like others of your ilk, you are speculating and doing it badly because this isn't really important to you.
GC
That's a lot of speculation about the text going on in that post of yours, GC...you fucking hypocrite.
First off, why would the Romans give two shits whether people thought Jesus rose from the dead, and why would gentiles have been as familiar with Jewish prophecy as you claim? Also, if they really wanted people to know he was gone for good, why wouldn't they just leave him on the stick until he rotted his way off of it (like they did with virtually everyone else they crucified)? Letting people bury him would have been totally out of character for them, and placing a guard over a dead man would have been considered a waste of time and manpower. It is much more likely (according to REAL historical evidence) that they would have left him up until the flies were done and then tossed him in a hole.
Verbatim from the mouth of Jesus (retranslated from a retranslation of a copy of a copy):
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)
Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com