(May 30, 2016 at 2:30 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:(May 30, 2016 at 12:45 pm)Godschild Wrote: Only to those who disobey Him and He knows will not accept Christ as savior.
GC
Didn't God make everyone?
Does He or did He set up a process that allows the soul to be born in a child through human procreation?
WoG Wrote:So if God made everyone then he made some "defective" just so that he could get pissed at his imperfect creations. After all, he saves those whom he wants to save and condemns those whom he wants to condemn. The individual has no say in what happens to himself.
God didn't make anything defective, haven't you read Genesis, God said, "all His creation was very good." It was the sin of Adam which caused the down fall of man, we are now born with a sinful nature. You should study the Bible and find out how things really work with man and his fall. You wouldn't make these mistakes, you know. God doesn't control you like a puppet, you have the freedom to make choices, it's you that you have to blame for your failures.
WoG Wrote:Have you ever stopped to consider that by worshiping Jesus you are not worshiping God? Jesus was nowhere to be found in the Old Testament fairy tales.
You now have proved you know nothing about the OT scriptures, Christ is all through it, as in physical appearances and prophecy. Also God shows us the need for Christ as savior in the OT. Jesus is God as the Father and Holy Spirit are, three who are One.
WoG Wrote: He pops up in the New Testament fairy tales just like Satan did. The result is that the Jesus character got people to abandon God worship and to start worshiping him. If he was still wiggling on the cross there might be some justification in that but even when he was supposedly alive he never did anything godly. Paul said that if the dead don't return to life then your faith is in vain. Have you ever seen any zombies pop out of the graveyard and visit you?
I think... no believe you are quite crazy and a very hateful person. Satan appears in the first three chapters of Genesis, Jesus was who created everything. Jesus said that the Father and He were one, that no one comes to the Father except through Him, Jesus taught us how to pray to the Father and I could go on and on but, you wouldn't understand because you've not studied the Bible, I'm tired of your foolishness and plan this as my last response to you in this thread. The resurrection will happen when Christ returns and not before. Christ came to live life as a man, to be sinless and the perfect sacrifice for our sin. You by your disrespect for Christians think you can get under our skin, think again it will be to God you will answer not us.
WoG Wrote:Once the con men like Peter found out that they could hoodwink dummies into giving them their cash they were off to the races. (Acts 5:1-11). It's all about the money.
It's all you can see, it's all God will allow you to see until and/or if you change your heart, so the real dummies are the ones choosing to spend an eternity in hell. Peter worked hard to bring the good news of Christ to the people and his first sermon brought 3000 to salvation.
Here's your lesson learn it if you expect to have any knowledge of scripture. These verses are about spiritual things, first of all Ananias and Sapphira thought they could lie to the Holy Spirit by keeping part of the money they promised the church. Second, Peter told Ananias that the property he sold was his and he didn't have to sell it, Peter also told Ananias that when he sold the property it was his money to use as he saw fit, in other words he didn't have to promise the money to the church. Ananias promised the money to God for the church then he tried to keep part of it for himself, Satan influenced Ananias as he did with Eve to think of themselves first and then God a some point later, thus he lied to God and was punished as God judged appropriate. His wife did the same and suffered the same punishment. You probably can't see it but the whole thing was about being dishonest in the heart with God and believing he could fool God. So again your lack of understanding of scripture is not very good at all.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.