RE: Can't prove the supernatural God
May 31, 2016 at 2:40 pm
(This post was last modified: May 31, 2016 at 2:43 pm by robvalue.)
Okay! Well, how do we distinguish between what something can do according to its natural power, and what is supernatural? How can we be sure that a slug can't always create a universe, but it's just a rare occurrence?
It seems to be a possible fallacy here to say it's doing something it "can't do". If we observe it doing something, then it's done it. It's capable of it. So what's the difference between what something can naturally do, and what it can do? If there's no difference, then nothing supernatural can ever happen. If there's some difference, how do we objectively distinguish them?
Or maybe you're suggesting there must be some other agency involved to make up the difference?
But then... a rabbit can't naturally glow in the dark. But I screwed with it, and now it glows in the dark! What's the difference? How is this not now supernatural? If a slug created a universe one day, then clearly slugs can do that according to whatever nature they have at the time, even if it's being screwed with in order to make it happen.
Again, kudos for an actual discussion and not a "everyone knows what natural is" cop out that I normally get plastered on my face
It seems to be a possible fallacy here to say it's doing something it "can't do". If we observe it doing something, then it's done it. It's capable of it. So what's the difference between what something can naturally do, and what it can do? If there's no difference, then nothing supernatural can ever happen. If there's some difference, how do we objectively distinguish them?
Or maybe you're suggesting there must be some other agency involved to make up the difference?
But then... a rabbit can't naturally glow in the dark. But I screwed with it, and now it glows in the dark! What's the difference? How is this not now supernatural? If a slug created a universe one day, then clearly slugs can do that according to whatever nature they have at the time, even if it's being screwed with in order to make it happen.
Again, kudos for an actual discussion and not a "everyone knows what natural is" cop out that I normally get plastered on my face

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