RE: Can't prove the supernatural God
June 3, 2016 at 4:23 pm
(This post was last modified: June 3, 2016 at 4:28 pm by Whateverist.)
(June 3, 2016 at 4:05 pm)SteveII Wrote:(June 3, 2016 at 1:12 pm)madog Wrote: Once we can deduce that something interacted with a natural event and can't be presently explained it is unnatural. It has an explanation that just can't yet be explained.
You want it both ways .... you want a supernatural god that can be known, yet is supernatural which can't be known ..... with the proviso you can move the meaning around to accommodate yours and religions changing interpretations of a single badly written book?
I do not know what your hangup on the word supernatural is, so call it anything that makes you happy. I'm sticking with the traditional definition.
No "hangup", it just doesn't make any sense and one can live their entire life without ever having heard of such a thing. Nothing anyone actually encounters is actually supernatural.
(June 3, 2016 at 4:05 pm)SteveII Wrote: What sense does " It has an explanation that just can't yet be explained" make? It either has an explanation or it does not. How can you say that an event was certainly not supernaturally (let's just say God so you don't start the definition thing again) caused?
Are you pulling my chain now? Are you seriously asking what sense does it make to say an event has an explanation which can't yet be explained? Of course some events cannot not be explained for a number of reasons, most common being lack of access to the needed facts. All events which happen where I lack knowledge of the antecedent cause are examples of events which happen for reasons I can't explain. Since absolutely every other event for which we've ever been given an adequate explanation turned out to be natural, I think we're safe in assuming the reason for the event in question will also turn out to be natural.
When does anyone even specify that it is a natural explanation that they're interested in? It only comes up when someone suggests silly woo stuff. Steve: "Maybe it was just God's will?" Me: "Come on, Steve. There has to be a natural explanation." -OR- Simpleton: "Maybe it was magic!" Me: "No, there has to be a real (i.e., natural) explanation."
