RE: Someone stole the body!
June 8, 2016 at 5:01 pm
(This post was last modified: June 8, 2016 at 5:03 pm by Jehanne.)
(June 8, 2016 at 4:29 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: Speaking of "would not die for a lie," I'm reminded of the Jews in Spain at the time of the Inquisition. They were persecuted and driven out of Spain, even many who recanted, because it was never about what they believed. Those that were granted reprieve by recanting went on to be persecuted again in a second round of recriminations. The Conversos were persecuted as much as the Jews driven out before. And when the same fate befell the Conversos, it mattered not that they had recanted.
Let's be absolutely clear; none of the disciples of Jesus were martyred. If you have historical evidence of that (and, of course, this is directed more at GC than "you"), then please state it. No 1st-century sources exist on the fate of any of the disciples. It is only in the 2nd-century non-canonical sources (which GC rejects) that the first mentions of the fate of the disciples comes to light, and these accounts are all legendary and highly embellished.
As for the Spanish Inquisition, it never tried anyone who was Jewish, but rather, individuals who had "falsely" converted to Catholicism but had lapsed back into the practice of Judaism. It was a horrible institution, but during its worst periods, only around 100 individuals were executed per year, and if this number seems "excessive", also understand that many of these individuals were also guilty of secular crimes that had merited the death penalty. In fact, it was common for criminals to feign heresy to get their cases transferred from secular, royal courts to those of Church courts. I am not defending the Inquisitions, of course, but they are a source of legends, also.