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Orlando shooting/The non gun debate
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate
(June 16, 2016 at 1:21 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: Even so, the point remains that he chose Pulse rather than any other soft target so readily available to him in one of the world's most famous tourist towns.  I mean, even if you look at it through the lens of "He wanted to attack the West," it's pretty obvious that what he was attacking was our acceptance of LGBT people.  Maybe the West was abstractly targeted, but these people died and got shot simply because of their sexuality.
-and how their sexuality  (possibly even his own) related to his beliefs and rationalizations for action.  

Target selection though...you think a nighclub isn't a good place for an attack. Packed bodies, dimmed lights, loud noises..........welcoming staff and patrons.....a lack of law enforcement presence...minimal likelihood of armed resistance....distracted or otherwise intentionally unaware masses of human flesh with what, one or two exits, none of which easily accessible....
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Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 14, 2016 at 8:16 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Kingpin - June 14, 2016 at 9:12 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 14, 2016 at 9:25 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Minimalist - June 14, 2016 at 10:29 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by dyresand - June 14, 2016 at 9:46 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 14, 2016 at 12:06 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by dyresand - June 14, 2016 at 5:45 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by IATIA - June 14, 2016 at 7:41 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by dyresand - June 14, 2016 at 7:51 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 15, 2016 at 11:20 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by abaris - June 14, 2016 at 10:14 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Kingpin - June 14, 2016 at 10:17 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by abaris - June 14, 2016 at 10:20 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Kingpin - June 14, 2016 at 10:23 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 14, 2016 at 12:26 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Silver - June 14, 2016 at 10:19 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Tiberius - June 14, 2016 at 10:35 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by dyresand - June 14, 2016 at 10:46 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 14, 2016 at 12:39 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 14, 2016 at 12:37 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Tiberius - June 14, 2016 at 11:01 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by abaris - June 14, 2016 at 12:25 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by abaris - June 14, 2016 at 12:30 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Whateverist - June 14, 2016 at 12:44 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by ignoramus - June 14, 2016 at 7:30 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by IATIA - June 14, 2016 at 7:43 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 14, 2016 at 2:32 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by dyresand - June 15, 2016 at 1:01 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 16, 2016 at 9:22 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by dyresand - June 16, 2016 at 10:25 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 16, 2016 at 11:03 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by dyresand - June 16, 2016 at 11:24 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 17, 2016 at 10:46 am
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RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 17, 2016 at 1:24 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 14, 2016 at 2:33 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 14, 2016 at 2:37 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by abaris - June 14, 2016 at 3:12 pm
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RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 14, 2016 at 4:19 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by abaris - June 14, 2016 at 4:24 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 14, 2016 at 4:26 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by abaris - June 14, 2016 at 4:28 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Iroscato - June 14, 2016 at 7:01 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by dyresand - June 14, 2016 at 7:38 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by ignoramus - June 14, 2016 at 7:48 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by IATIA - June 14, 2016 at 10:49 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Losty - June 14, 2016 at 11:36 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 15, 2016 at 11:35 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Aroura - June 14, 2016 at 11:37 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 15, 2016 at 11:39 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Spirian - June 15, 2016 at 11:42 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Aroura - June 15, 2016 at 1:11 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by dyresand - June 15, 2016 at 1:22 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 16, 2016 at 9:24 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by ignoramus - June 15, 2016 at 12:07 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Huggy Bear - June 15, 2016 at 4:03 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 15, 2016 at 11:41 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Silver - June 15, 2016 at 11:42 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 15, 2016 at 11:47 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by abaris - June 15, 2016 at 11:52 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 15, 2016 at 11:57 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by abaris - June 15, 2016 at 12:00 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 16, 2016 at 9:19 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by abaris - June 15, 2016 at 1:37 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by dyresand - June 15, 2016 at 2:04 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 16, 2016 at 9:49 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 16, 2016 at 9:59 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by abaris - June 15, 2016 at 11:11 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 15, 2016 at 11:17 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by abaris - June 15, 2016 at 11:20 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 15, 2016 at 11:53 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by KevinM1 - June 15, 2016 at 1:52 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by abaris - June 15, 2016 at 2:12 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by KevinM1 - June 15, 2016 at 2:18 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 16, 2016 at 9:55 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by KevinM1 - June 16, 2016 at 12:30 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 17, 2016 at 1:22 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by abaris - June 17, 2016 at 1:27 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 17, 2016 at 1:47 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by abaris - June 16, 2016 at 1:01 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 17, 2016 at 10:36 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 17, 2016 at 1:26 pm
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RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 17, 2016 at 2:28 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by abaris - June 17, 2016 at 2:46 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 17, 2016 at 3:41 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by IATIA - June 15, 2016 at 2:35 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Huggy Bear - June 15, 2016 at 3:33 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 16, 2016 at 9:58 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by dyresand - June 16, 2016 at 11:17 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by KevinM1 - June 16, 2016 at 12:40 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 17, 2016 at 1:24 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by KevinM1 - June 16, 2016 at 1:21 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 17, 2016 at 1:35 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by abaris - June 17, 2016 at 1:43 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 17, 2016 at 2:41 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by abaris - June 17, 2016 at 2:50 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by The Grand Nudger - June 16, 2016 at 1:25 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by KevinM1 - June 16, 2016 at 2:28 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by IATIA - June 16, 2016 at 2:44 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Losty - June 16, 2016 at 3:45 pm
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RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Mermaid - June 16, 2016 at 7:51 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by KevinM1 - June 16, 2016 at 10:23 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by abaris - June 17, 2016 at 3:34 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by abaris - June 17, 2016 at 1:49 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 17, 2016 at 2:44 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Drich - June 17, 2016 at 3:00 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by abaris - June 17, 2016 at 3:03 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Brian37 - June 17, 2016 at 3:21 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Brian37 - June 17, 2016 at 3:22 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Brian37 - June 17, 2016 at 3:34 pm
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RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Brian37 - June 17, 2016 at 4:51 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Silver - June 19, 2016 at 1:49 am
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RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Brian37 - June 19, 2016 at 9:25 am
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by KevinM1 - June 17, 2016 at 7:08 pm
RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Minimalist - June 17, 2016 at 10:33 pm
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RE: Orlando shooting/The non gun debate - by Brian37 - June 21, 2016 at 3:48 pm
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