(June 19, 2016 at 8:28 am)Ignorant Wrote:(June 19, 2016 at 5:23 am)Constable Dorfl Wrote: I wouldn't. But biblical "scholars" reckon about 50s ad, written by a man who never met Yeshua and was supposed (by the writing attributed to him) to be at loggerheads theologically with theJerusalem sect.
Though the biggest reason why I say no crucifixion was that Yeshua was convicted under sanhedric law, which proscribed stoning or hanging not crucifixion, and Rome was unlikely to intervene because a minor theological dispute involving non-citizens wasn't something worth angrying up a very prickly people.
Right. If those same scholars date the Gospel of Mark in the 60's ad (which includes a narrative about the crucifixion), where does your claim that "there was no crucifixion and the story was made up seventy years or more later when the creators of jesusism were trying to codify it" (emphasis mine) come from? Would you like to modify that? If you don't think there was a crucifixion, fair enough. But to claim that it was made up 70 years later cannot be supported by the historical evidence.
At the latest, it would have been "made up" around 30 years after the made-up crucifixion (with Mark's Gospel). <= I am merely challenging your timeline, not your conclusion from the timeline.
The earliest plausible date for Mark is 75 CE, and even at that the 325 CE version which was put into the first canon was radically different than today's version, it contained no resurrection. But ten years isn't going to disprove my reasoning, Mark was still removed from Yeshua by a whole generation, either relying on second hand accounts or the fading memories of geriatrics.
And I see you've no dispute with my pointing out that crucifixion for a jewish religious crime doesn't make sense. You've no evidence for your god killing himself for three days, so you put up a very weak argument that I may (on the very edge of possibility) be ten years out and that defeats my argument because... reasons.
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