Do Christians worship a suicide victim?

[madog]

Laying down his own life purposefully is suicide ...  [1]
 

1) Something tells me you're not open to a discussion on this point...

 

{1}  Many people mistakenly take their own life (lay down) thinking their children will be better off ... I don't consider that as a sacrifice but suicide ..... 

Freely going into a situation with fore knowledge that it will kill you is still suicide, if there is another option.... A train may have killed you but putting yourself in a position where it will hit you is suicide ....

I will answer your points in separate posts as you just keep adding stuff that wasn't anything to do with the original post 


another option Look anyone considering using examples such as jumping on a grenade ... when there is no other option that is sacrifice ... if you could have just pulled the pin out that is suicide .... 

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3) You are trying to use apostles to prove "Jesus the son of God", without a "Jesus" there are no apostles [2]

 

2) How many times am I going to have to tell you this: No, I am not trying to prove that Jesus is the son of God. <= Read that again. Then re-read these:
 

You brought in apostles and the apostolic history ......  The apostles are primary the 12 disciples of "Jesus the son of God", unless you mean them in another way? .......   
Just using the apostles as proof of anything is an attempt to prove Jesus is the son of God ... If their was no Jesus son of God their would be no apostles 

I'll get around to the rest of your reply when I can ....