(June 20, 2016 at 8:37 am)Ignorant Wrote:(June 19, 2016 at 7:52 pm)Mr.wizard Wrote: I'm pretty sure there is no scientific evidence of someone rising from the dead, floating to heaven, and becoming god. [1] There is plenty of evidence of people making stuff up [2] and inaccurately recalling events. [3]
Alright, thank you for adding #3. Compare that with your original:
Mr.wizard Wrote: To me it doesn't matter if it was written down at the time of Jesus, someone making it up to further an agenda [2] is still a more plausible explanation than a man rising from the dead and floating to a magic place to become a god. [1]" (emphasis mine)
Which one is more plausible to you: a conspiracy of mostly illiterate Jews inventing a new pseudo-Jewish religion, or a shared experience of mostly illiterate Jews witnessing something they didn't really understand?
I mean, it is a normal and institutionally accepted psychiatric phenomenon that, after the death of a loved one, the bereaved will experience "seeing" their dead loved one and sometimes even speak with them. If you want to reject the interpretation of events which faith gives (i.e. a man rising from the dead), I think that this phenomenon [i.e. the natural psychosis of "seeing" a recently deceased] is your best way of accounting for the apostolic experience. Assigning intention and deceit to ancient people long gone seems a very unscientific thing to do. At least to me.
Yes somebody making up the story is a much more plausible explanation than somebody rose from the dead, I'm not sure what you are trying to get at. Why is assigning intention and deceit to "ancient people" unscientific, did they not posses those qualities?
