Do Christians worship a suicide victim?

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Freely going into a situation with fore knowledge that it will kill you is still suicide, if there is another option.... A train may have killed you but putting yourself in a position where it will hit you is suicide ....

This is what I was talking about. If I have to accept that definition to discuss this topic... then the game is rigged. Doesn't seem like you're open to a discussion about it.

You brought in apostles and the apostolic history [1] ......  The apostles are primary the 12 disciples of "Jesus the son of God", unless you mean them in another way? ... [2]  

Just using the apostles as proof of anything is an attempt to prove Jesus is the son of God [3] ... If their was no Jesus son of God their would be no apostles   [4]

1) Yes, because you asked me (HERE, #3) how I know anything about what I claim to know about Jesus's message (my answer HERE, #4). I don't understand how it is surprising that the apostles and the apostolic history have anything to do with what I claim to know about the Jesus story today in 2016 CE.

2) Yup, that's them.

3) Would you mind connecting those dots for me? Where have you seen me propose the argument of the type: 1) The Apostles are proof of X, therefore, Jesus is the Son of God. <= I have explicitly documented and affirmed the exact opposite in my previous post HERE. 

4) I don't follow (and neither does your conclusion). If I can propose at least one alternative possibility, then your claim here is just false. Allow me: If there was a merely human Jesus, there would be apostles. There, that was easy.

? So the New Testament wasn't based on the fishermen's claims? [1] who else could have told the story other than the odd apparent eye witness that could only speak about one event they had seen? ... [2]

The Character in the stories didn't write anything, without the apostles the particular story called the New Testament wouldn't exist or at least in its present form .... [3]

So I would be interested in what is your basis for your belief in this character "Jesus the son of God" ? and what was the basis for that belief? [4]

1) You asked if ALL of my evidence and faith is BASED on a 1st century Palestinian Jewish fisherman's claims. I said no. If I disagreed with the proposition in your question, here are the only possible things I could have said yes to and remain consistent with my no to your question:

a) NONE of my evidence and faith is BASED on a 1st century Palestinian Jewish fisherman's claims. <= Clearly, this one isn't the case given my previous comments on the subject. You, however, immediately concluded that this was the only other possibility.

b)  Some of my evidence and faith is NOT BASED on a 1st century Palestinian Jewish fisherman's claims. <= Consistent logic would dictate that I must say yes to this if I say no to your question

c) Some of my evidence and faith is BASED on a 1st century Palestinian Jewish fisherman's claims. <= Consistent logic would dictate that, due to my rejection of your question, a) being false, and b) being true, that this also must be true.

Logic Square

2) See above. Clearly the apostolic witness is SOME of my evidence upon which I base my historical conclusions as well as my faith.

3) Exactly

4) I've already told you that. See THIS AGAIN #4. With the additional, and no doubt unsatisfactory for you, elaboration that the "basis" of faith is God himself who gives it as a gift. The history of the events and message themselves, the history of the transmission of those events and message, the underlying anthropology and philosophy inherent in the message and events transmitted, the continuity of the ancient transmitting community with the community of the present day [i.e. all of those being evidence] converge and concur with [i.e. as opposed to "demonstrate that"] my own experience within human reality of encountering the divine author of the message through today's apostolic community and receiving that message as true on his divine authority.