Do Christians worship a suicide victim?

[madog]

Freely going into a situation with fore knowledge that it will kill you is still suicide, if there is another option.... A train may have killed you but putting yourself in a position where it will hit you is suicide ....

This is what I was talking about. If I have to accept that definition to discuss this topic... then the game is rigged. Doesn't seem like you're open to a discussion about it.
 

Why is it rigged? I consider freely going into a situation with foreknowledge you will be killed is suicide. This is what my contention is ... The rest is just stuff tacked on as you think it shows something different ....

If you agree "Jesus" had a choice tell me why that is not suicide?

And remember you have agreed to consider Jesus as an ordinary man .... has that changed? I need to know before answering the rest of your answers/questions ....