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RE: Do I sound like the "devil" to you? My mother thinks I speak like the de...

July 3, 2016 at 1:23 am (This post was last modified: July 3, 2016 at 1:27 am by robvalue.)

(July 2, 2016 at 10:30 pm)Lek Wrote:
(July 2, 2016 at 4:17 pm)Nihilist Virus Wrote: If they think homosexuality is evil, then it MUST be a choice. Something cannot be evil it is not deliberate.

Once you've established that they believe it's a choice, ask them, "At what point did you choose to be straight? Clearly you must've been tempted to be gay, or else otherwise it would hardly have been a choice for you. Technically I have the choice to eat a bowl of salt, but if I have no desire to do so whatsoever, it's not really a choice. So... how often do you choose to resist your gay urges?"

I'd say that most of the time homosexuality is not a choice and is not a sin. It is the sexual acts that christians consider sinful. I'm straight and choose to engage in any sexual act I perform, but I didn't choose to be straight.

And that is an extremely harmful stance, in my opinion. You're expecting people to deny their nature, and either never have sex or pretend to be something they are not.

Whether you hold that stance, I don't know. But anyone who promotes such a position is a bigot in my opinion, if their justification is religous dogma.

I'd likely consider them a bigot regardless, but I'd be prepared to hear out their reasons. I've yet to hear any rational reason for such a position.

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