RE: Evidence for Jesus Christ?
May 3, 2011 at 12:55 pm
(This post was last modified: May 3, 2011 at 1:28 pm by reverendjeremiah.)
(May 3, 2011 at 12:08 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote:(May 3, 2011 at 10:31 am)reverendjeremiah Wrote: A god who creates Hell has no idea of forgiveness.
Oooooo, excellent point. By their definition, Hell is eternal. There is no "OK, you've learned your lesson, I forgive you, you can come out now."
Any god that threatens eternal Hell is by definition declaring that there are at least some who will never be forgiven under any circumstances.
Even if it isnt eternal. Even if Hell was just for a day, or an hour, it is STILL horrifying and shows that their god isnt one of "perfect forgivness". It would be like me saying "Well, you took my book without permission and for me to forgive you, you have to endure absolute pain and suffering in flames before I can bring myself to forgive you."
Forgivness. TRUE forgivness is unconditional. "It is MY gift to you" is something someone who truly forgives would say.
This is a big thing for me, so I tend to categorizes christians less by sect and more by belief in Hell:
1 - Believers in the prince of peace, who is kind gentle and forgiving. These christians frown upon the idea of a hell, or like my mother taught me "No loving god would invent a hell. He would forgive everyone." These people are easy going and not judgemental. They accept gays, atheists, other religious types, etc. The furthest they go is to suggest that those who dont believe just stay dead and are not tortured.
2 - Believers in the Lord of Hell. The God who has a big book, and makes everyone watch every life decision you made on a big screen TV, and then claims that he never knew you if you didnt scrape at his feet every moment of your life. Then he has you THROWN into the Hell that HE created, the Hell that HE controls, the HEll that HE decides who gets thrown into. To suffer in agony forever and ever while those who worshipped him yell "Praise our holy god is just and true!". These people KNOW that their Lord of Hell is unpopular, so they play word tricks on you. They say that "you" will toss yourself in Hell, not Jesus.