The problem with prayer.

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The problem with prayer.

~~Edwardo Piet~~

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RE: The problem with prayer.

July 26, 2016 at 8:11 am

(July 24, 2016 at 3:45 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Asuming that reality is intelligible and reason is effective is one thing, but that's not the part under examination. It's the "general revelation" part. Let's posit a person coming to this for the first time, with no prior conceptions or anyone interpreting meaning and telling him what to believe - what about the bible, general revelation and the classical "God" can possibly lead to the conclusion that reality existed before time began?

(my bolding)

Not only that Stim, but the whole concept of "before" time doesn't even make sense does it? Before time there was no "before".

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The problem with prayer. - by Gawdzilla - July 20, 2016 at 9:52 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by mediocrates - July 20, 2016 at 10:06 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by PETE_ROSE - July 20, 2016 at 10:07 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by ApeNotKillApe - July 20, 2016 at 10:13 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by robvalue - July 20, 2016 at 10:38 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Whateverist - July 25, 2016 at 10:56 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by FatAndFaithless - July 20, 2016 at 10:09 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Gawdzilla - July 20, 2016 at 10:34 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by PETE_ROSE - July 20, 2016 at 10:40 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Cyberman - July 20, 2016 at 10:42 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by PETE_ROSE - July 20, 2016 at 10:59 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by brewer - July 20, 2016 at 1:58 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Spirian - July 20, 2016 at 2:39 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Simon Moon - July 20, 2016 at 2:50 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by brewer - July 20, 2016 at 3:48 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Spirian - July 20, 2016 at 4:12 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by chimp3 - August 1, 2016 at 10:20 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by robvalue - July 20, 2016 at 11:01 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by PETE_ROSE - July 20, 2016 at 11:06 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by PETE_ROSE - July 20, 2016 at 11:02 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by robvalue - July 20, 2016 at 11:03 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by PETE_ROSE - July 20, 2016 at 11:07 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by robvalue - July 20, 2016 at 11:09 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Cyberman - July 20, 2016 at 11:12 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by robvalue - July 20, 2016 at 11:08 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by PETE_ROSE - July 20, 2016 at 11:09 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by robvalue - July 20, 2016 at 11:11 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by PETE_ROSE - July 20, 2016 at 11:26 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by robvalue - July 20, 2016 at 11:36 am

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RE: The problem with prayer. - by Neo-Scholastic - July 20, 2016 at 1:09 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Angrboda - July 20, 2016 at 1:49 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Minimalist - July 20, 2016 at 11:55 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Gawdzilla - July 20, 2016 at 12:49 pm

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RE: The problem with prayer. - by Edwardo Piet - July 25, 2016 at 10:40 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Godschild - July 26, 2016 at 3:28 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Edwardo Piet - July 26, 2016 at 4:10 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Godschild - July 27, 2016 at 2:52 am

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RE: The problem with prayer. - by Edwardo Piet - July 23, 2016 at 3:47 am

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RE: The problem with prayer. - by Edwardo Piet - July 26, 2016 at 8:11 am

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RE: The problem with prayer. - by Edwardo Piet - July 29, 2016 at 2:58 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Godschild - July 29, 2016 at 2:59 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Edwardo Piet - July 29, 2016 at 3:43 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Godschild - July 30, 2016 at 4:02 am

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The problem with prayer. - by LadyForCamus - July 29, 2016 at 9:18 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Edwardo Piet - July 29, 2016 at 9:24 am

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RE: The problem with prayer. - by Edwardo Piet - July 29, 2016 at 11:53 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by popsthebuilder - July 29, 2016 at 4:29 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Minimalist - July 29, 2016 at 7:12 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Edwardo Piet - July 30, 2016 at 3:59 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Edwardo Piet - July 30, 2016 at 4:01 am

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RE: The problem with prayer. - by Edwardo Piet - July 30, 2016 at 4:52 am

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RE: The problem with prayer. - by Edwardo Piet - August 2, 2016 at 12:03 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Edwardo Piet - August 2, 2016 at 2:50 am

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RE: The problem with prayer. - by Edwardo Piet - August 4, 2016 at 3:02 am

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The problem with prayer. - by LadyForCamus - August 4, 2016 at 8:55 pm

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