(September 15, 2016 at 8:10 pm)Excited Penguin Wrote:(September 15, 2016 at 8:09 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: Well actually the government real can do shit. The real question do you want them to. Your left with the question of this. So you want a free and open society, or do you want a nanny state that jails it citizens on a whim?
False analogy.
You can have a free and open society that is extremely efficient at detaining and diverting criminals.
I should clarify. Yes you are right, you can have a that is efficient at detaining and diverting criminals. And I for one support such measures. But my point still stands. Someone has to a criminal before you detain them and for that to happen it means a crimes has taken place. That meaning that if want a 100% crime free you would have to put people in jail when they have committed no crime.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.