RE: Question for deists: why is there a Creator?
May 22, 2011 at 9:35 am
(This post was last modified: May 22, 2011 at 9:38 am by Cinjin.)
(May 22, 2011 at 6:23 am)Rayaan Wrote:(May 22, 2011 at 2:36 am)Cinjin Cain Wrote: First - I added that my own mild assumptions are no more valid than anyone else's.
I have seen that, and it's fine if you think so, but someone else could also have his or her own reasons on why they think that your assumptions are not valid and/or have inconsistencies between them, and then try to discuss the subject logically, to be able to rationalize the belief at least. That's what I'm trying to do.
See, this is why I don't defend any belief structures - including my own. I don't think it's possible to rationalize a belief. No matter how logical you think your arguments are, you cannot base them on anything tangible or verifiable. Christians and Muslims are notorious for offering "evidence" for their beliefs and it's total horse shit. I don't pretend to know anything more than anyone else but since you seem so fixated with intelligence being a human characteristic that I assigned to God than I will concede that to you. I don't think it's unreasonable to assign the creator of the universe the attribute of intelligence. It seems to me to be a given. After all, I don't know of any religion that thinks their god is a mindless tomato plant.
I'm not actually TRYING to be a dick. I just don't care to defend what I believe to anyone. I think the nature of beliefs is indeed irrational and perhaps thats what makes me such an enigma. It's my own contradiction, my "Achilles" if you will.
(May 22, 2011 at 7:00 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: The reason for a "creator" is needed because the majority of hominids are incapable of thinking. end of story. It's the sort of nonsense that one would tell a child of say about 4 years old.
I think even the people who don't like me on this forum would concede that I am capable of thinking. With that exception, I oddly enough, do not disagree with you all that much.