RE: On Catholicism!
April 14, 2009 at 1:35 pm
(This post was last modified: April 14, 2009 at 1:48 pm by fr0d0.)
(April 14, 2009 at 4:25 am)Kyuuketsuki Wrote:No I didn't vote in the idiotic poll(April 14, 2009 at 3:23 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Catholics, like the rest of the catholic Christian church, follow the same belief system. As I've outlined above, members of the Catholic church that don't follow Christ, and that IS possible, are not Christians. I simply point out to you the simple facts. I've met very few atheists that understand what Christianity is really about. If you wish to continue in your ignorance then that's up to you. I merely seek to put right your misconceptions. It isn't an argument for me, it's a simple point of fact.
What you consider "misconceptions" come across to everyone else as arrogance ... ignoring the "fuck's" [GRIN] the poll above demonstrates that everyone else (I assume the one dissenting vote is you) believes that Catholics are just Christians like every other Christian. In fact here's one fpr you ... the Westboro Baptists are Christians too (it may even be possible to make a case for the Ku Klux Klan being Christian too ).
So atheists think that Catholics are Christians. In my experience 99% of all atheists haven't the slightest idea what Christianity actually is! Yeah... way to go to get an informed opinion. Colour me psychedelic.
Most of the ignorant statements published are from non Christians complaining on behalf of Christianity because they think someone or some thing is saying something against it - without having the first clue themselves what they're actually talking about. This would include you.
Another numpty statement. The WBC ALSO act in a non Christ like way. Of course in your universe they're being Christian because to you, being a Christian is no more than saying you are. Actually following Christ could have nothing to do with it could it. 2000 years of wisdom sure is wasted on you isn't it. You, having no clue of course we should respect as an authority on this subject you know fuck all about, because that's what you believe isn't it? I know jack about science. Perhaps Dawkins is wrong... science need people who know fuck all about it telling scientists what they're thinking. I can absolutely see the logic in that... yeah - Kyu logic ...this is where the world has gone wrong . we should all have been practicing Kyu logic all along.
(April 14, 2009 at 8:49 am)Eilonnwy Wrote: Your distinction is irrelevant, because if they don't follow Christ they're not Catholics either. And I can tell you as someone who was raised Catholic and lives in a predominately Catholic city (Boston) that every Catholic I have encountered follows Christ and what they are taught in school and church is all about Jesus.You don't answer any of my points. I've already said why some that consider themselves Catholics are not also Christians. If you disagree with this then you are ignorant of Christianity.
(April 14, 2009 at 8:49 am)Eilonnwy Wrote: They fact of the matter is that Christians can't agree on what Christianity is about except for 1 fact and that's to follow Jesus. The fact of the matter is Atheists tend to know more about Christians then the average Christian knows about their own religion. (Note the word of average) Just because Atheists don't come to same conclusions as you doesn't mean we don't know anything about Christianity.Fact is you're mistaken. ALL Christians, including Catholics, accept a particular Nicene Creed. All Christians are united by this. 100%
In my experience. 99% of atheists have the wrong idea about Christianity. Currently I count you as one of the 99%.
(April 14, 2009 at 8:49 am)Eilonnwy Wrote: Whether you agree with Catholicism is one thing. The fact is that Catholicism is under the umbrella of Christianity along with Baptist, Evangelical, etc...in which each sect tells the other they're not Christian. If a single person claims Catholicism, but doesn't not believe in Christ, that's irrelevant because what Catholicism is based on, what it teaches, what it worships is Christ, regardless of whether you think those teachings are incorrect or not. And your inability to see that only speaks to your ignorance. End of story.Again you display you're ignorance. Are you not reading what I'm writing?? You obviously think that going against Christ's teachings is being a Christian. How can I argue with such sound logic?