On Catholicism!

[Eilonnwy]

You don't answer any of my points. I've already said why some that consider themselves Catholics are not also Christians. If you disagree with this then you are ignorant of Christianity.

Because disgreeing with you is your criteria for ignorance

Fact is you're mistaken. ALL Christians, including Catholics, accept a particular Nicene Creed. All Christians are united by this. 100%

In my experience. 99% of atheists have the wrong idea about Christianity. Currently I count you as one of the 99%.

Again you display you're ignorance. Are you not reading what I'm writing?? You obviously think that going against Christ's teachings is being a Christian. How can I argue with such sound logic?

How about you crack open a dictionary.
Nevermind, I did it for you:

Christian –adjective 1. of, pertaining to, or derived from Jesus Christ or His teachings: a Christian faith.

Doesn't have to include the Nicene creed. It is a dogma that many faiths include but NOT required to be a Christian. All that's required is belief in Jesus.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/christian

Did you actually read what I wrote? I never said going against Christ's teachings is being Christian. The point I was making is that people can derive whatever meaning they want from Christ's teachings and that's why different sects call other sects non-Christian. The distinction that certain people may claim Catholicism and not truly be Christian is irrelevant to having Catholicism, as a religion, be considered Christian.

I don't care about your little quibbles about what people believe in the Catholic faith that in your opinion makes them non Christian. Fact: Christian's believe in Christ, follow his teachings. Fact: Catholics believe in Christ and follow their interpretations of Christ's teachings. They have fulfilled their requirement to be Christian, it doesn't matter what interpretation they take because there a MANY.

The point that I was making was whether someone claims to be a Catholic but follow it's teachings is irrelevant. There will always be someone who says "I'm catholic, I'm christian" but doesn't really believe or doesn't follow the teachings as described by their demonitations

You trott out a list of things that Catholics believe in and say that makes them not Christian. Sorry, intracacies of what Catholics and what you accept is not the point. The point is that their beliefs are based on Jesus, just as well as yours. I would in fact agree with you on certain points that the Catholics believe that really seems to contradict what's in the Bible. Doesn't matter. The Catholic that believes it would just as vehemently say you're wrong and possibly assert your not Christian.

Hey, you know Jesus said: Matthew 19:21 - Jesus answered, "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me."

Have you sold all your possessions. I think I can safely assume you're not poor on the street, since that's what this passage requires, and soo Oops, you haven't followed Jesus here. Guess you're not a Christian.

Now I'm sure you don't agree with my "interpretation" of this passage in one way or another. Doesn't matter, the point is that there are differences of opinion of what Jesus's teachings and what it is to be Christian, this is only a simple example.

Simple fact: Catholics are Christian. I don't care what you think Catholics believe that makes it so they are incorrectly following Jesus therefore not Christian. It's irrelevant, because there is only 1 requirement to be a Christian which has been explained and repeated many times.