(September 24, 2016 at 6:45 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:You are changing the narrative.(September 24, 2016 at 6:18 pm)Drich Wrote: The second, dudes went to jail right? how does that constituting out alpha-ing a cop? Cop did his job/what he sets out to do. subdue and place people in custody. if not for the news those two men would have rotted in prison... Are you advocating that people resist police authority?
It's not a cops job to harass law abiding citizens, cops need to have a little something called probable cause.
https://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=jlb7goXKxFQ
It is not your job to discern whether or not a cop has probable cause. That is a matter for the court. Your's like every other citizens (responsibility) is to submit to law enforcement when so directed.
Many, people foolish think that an arrest or being detain is the same as being sentenced to a prison term. So they over react, and try and excuse none compliant behavior with how the law reads.. Due process at this point does include an opportunity for you or me to defend one self. that is a matter of the court.
So again, does a cop have probable cause? it does not matter at this point. It matters in court.
Quote:Better question, why is it you seem to be offended by that statement? does it go against your 'moral fiber?' does it seem wrong to let someone have authority over you? Even though as a believe that is the cornerstone of our beliefs?
Quote:Not to turn this discussion into a religious one, but there is no requirement for any man to be unlawfully under subjection to any authority figure.But again who are we to decide what is lawful and what is not?
Did Christ rebel when He was 'unlawfully' detained, or did he put up a fight? What did He tell peter after he tried to fight the unlawful detention of Christ?
Did Paul fight capture, did he call for riots even after being whipped?
If you are honest to yourself about our religion you will note the whole religion center's itself around those of us who have been wrongful detained and prosecuted and yet remained faithful even unto death. So then how is the cross you've been asked to be somehow greater and excuses you from submission than the literal crosses Christ and just about everyone who followed Him were nailed to?
Not to mention Paul's direct command in Rom 13 for us to submit ourselves to the governing authorities. Which was a lot tougher command to follow in his day under an insane Ceaser who crucified christians and set them ablaze to light his garden parties.
Of which I'm sure did not receive anything close to a fair trial.