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Why Catholics Are Right
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RE: Why Catholics Are Right
Mark 4:11-12 And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables: That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them.

It is always essential to examine the context of verses. The Catholic Church teaches that these verses are too be understood against their background in Mark3:6 and Mark3:22. These are verses that show that people do not accept Jesus' teachings despite all the good that he's doing before their eyes. It is against this background that the distinction in Jesus' method becomes clear of presenting the kingdom to the disbelieving crowd in one manner and to the disciples in another.
To the former it is presented in parables and the truth remains hidden; for the latter the parable is interpreted and the mystery is partially revealed because of their faith.
This is why Jesus proceeds to explain His parable of the seeds to them in Mark4:13-20

Ultimately it is always the choice of the person to remain blind to God's words. Sin blinds us from understanding the meaning of His words. Once we turn our wills towards God and seek Him, He slowly permits His light of wisdom to penetrate our mind. We must cooperate with God's grace to have any wisdom at all.



John 12:40 He hath blinded their eyes, and hardened their heart; that they should not see with their eyes, nor understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them.

What John does here in verse 36-41 is give a historical explanation of the disbelief of the Jewish people, not a psychological one. The Old Testament had to be fulfilled; the disbelief that met Isaiah's message was a foreshadowing of the disbelief that Jesus encountered. In verse 43 and John3:20 we see that there is no negation of freedom.

Again, it is always our sins that blind us from understanding God's words of wisdom. As said in John 3:20-21 "For everyone who does wicked things hates the light, so that his works might not be exposed. But whoever lives the truth comes to the light, so that his works may be clearly seen as done in God.

2Thes 2:11-12 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Same idea here, it's is the person's choice that causes them have God send them strong delusion.

It's all essentially the same message here DeistPaladin.
We are always the cause of our own blindness by the choices we make.

Blessings,
TLIG4EVER
http://www.tlig.org/en/messages/1
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Why Catholics Are Right - by OnlyNatural - April 12, 2011 at 11:26 am
RE: Why Catholics Are Right - by Rev. Rye - April 13, 2011 at 12:54 pm
RE: Why Catholics Are Right - by Rainydays - April 20, 2011 at 7:10 am
RE: Why Catholics Are Right - by DeistPaladin - April 20, 2011 at 4:22 pm
RE: Why Catholics Are Right - by Minimalist - April 20, 2011 at 11:16 pm
RE: Why Catholics Are Right - by DeistPaladin - April 21, 2011 at 12:17 am
RE: Why Catholics Are Right - by reverendjeremiah - April 20, 2011 at 10:06 pm
RE: Why Catholics Are Right - by Cinjin - April 21, 2011 at 12:51 am
RE: Why Catholics Are Right - by Doubting Thomas - April 22, 2011 at 4:17 pm
RE: Why Catholics Are Right - by thesummerqueen - April 22, 2011 at 4:28 pm
RE: Why Catholics Are Right - by TLIG4EVER - May 23, 2011 at 8:28 pm
RE: Why Catholics Are Right - by Minimalist - May 23, 2011 at 8:41 pm
RE: Why Catholics Are Right - by TLIG4EVER - May 23, 2011 at 9:37 pm
RE: Why Catholics Are Right - by Rev. Rye - May 23, 2011 at 11:20 pm
RE: Why Catholics Are Right - by DeistPaladin - May 24, 2011 at 9:17 am
RE: Why Catholics Are Right - by thesummerqueen - May 23, 2011 at 10:09 pm
RE: Why Catholics Are Right - by Faith No More - May 23, 2011 at 10:34 pm
RE: Why Catholics Are Right - by Welsh cake - May 23, 2011 at 11:04 pm
RE: Why Catholics Are Right - by TLIG4EVER - May 23, 2011 at 11:35 pm
RE: Why Catholics Are Right - by Faith No More - May 24, 2011 at 2:44 am
RE: Why Catholics Are Right - by Jax - May 24, 2011 at 3:54 am
RE: Why Catholics Are Right - by thesummerqueen - May 24, 2011 at 6:39 am
RE: Why Catholics Are Right - by LastPoet - May 24, 2011 at 9:14 am
RE: Why Catholics Are Right - by Zen Badger - May 24, 2011 at 6:51 am
RE: Why Catholics Are Right - by TLIG4EVER - May 24, 2011 at 7:49 am
RE: Why Catholics Are Right - by Jax - May 24, 2011 at 8:02 am
RE: Why Catholics Are Right - by Faith No More - May 24, 2011 at 8:35 am
RE: Why Catholics Are Right - by scudmasterx - May 24, 2011 at 8:14 am
RE: Why Catholics Are Right - by thesummerqueen - May 24, 2011 at 8:30 am
RE: Why Catholics Are Right - by Doubting Thomas - May 24, 2011 at 9:34 am
RE: Why Catholics Are Right - by Welsh cake - May 24, 2011 at 3:18 pm
RE: Why Catholics Are Right - by reverendjeremiah - May 24, 2011 at 6:56 pm
RE: Why Catholics Are Right - by DeistPaladin - May 24, 2011 at 7:01 pm
RE: Why Catholics Are Right - by reverendjeremiah - May 24, 2011 at 7:04 pm
RE: Why Catholics Are Right - by TLIG4EVER - May 24, 2011 at 9:38 pm
RE: Why Catholics Are Right - by Zen Badger - May 25, 2011 at 6:18 am
RE: Why Catholics Are Right - by Skipper - May 25, 2011 at 2:33 pm
RE: Why Catholics Are Right - by thesummerqueen - May 24, 2011 at 9:42 pm
RE: Why Catholics Are Right - by reverendjeremiah - May 24, 2011 at 9:51 pm
RE: Why Catholics Are Right - by Doubting Thomas - May 24, 2011 at 9:51 pm
RE: Why Catholics Are Right - by scudmasterx - May 24, 2011 at 10:16 pm
RE: Why Catholics Are Right - by thesummerqueen - May 24, 2011 at 10:17 pm
RE: Why Catholics Are Right - by TLIG4EVER - May 24, 2011 at 10:21 pm
RE: Why Catholics Are Right - by Jax - May 25, 2011 at 3:55 am
RE: Why Catholics Are Right - by Faith No More - May 25, 2011 at 5:21 am
RE: Why Catholics Are Right - by thesummerqueen - May 24, 2011 at 10:28 pm
RE: Why Catholics Are Right - by Welsh cake - May 24, 2011 at 10:37 pm
RE: Why Catholics Are Right - by Ace Otana - May 25, 2011 at 4:42 am
RE: Why Catholics Are Right - by LastPoet - May 25, 2011 at 6:00 am
RE: Why Catholics Are Right - by tackattack - May 25, 2011 at 9:40 am
RE: Why Catholics Are Right - by LastPoet - May 25, 2011 at 1:47 pm
RE: Why Catholics Are Right - by Doubting Thomas - May 25, 2011 at 2:07 pm
RE: Why Catholics Are Right - by TLIG4EVER - May 25, 2011 at 6:29 pm
RE: Why Catholics Are Right - by Cinjin - May 25, 2011 at 11:39 pm
RE: Why Catholics Are Right - by Faith No More - May 25, 2011 at 11:53 pm
RE: Why Catholics Are Right - by Jax - May 26, 2011 at 1:57 am
RE: Why Catholics Are Right - by DeistPaladin - May 26, 2011 at 2:27 am
RE: Why Catholics Are Right - by Rev. Rye - May 25, 2011 at 9:10 pm
RE: Why Catholics Are Right - by Minimalist - May 26, 2011 at 12:02 am
RE: Why Catholics Are Right - by Angrboda - May 26, 2011 at 12:16 am
RE: Why Catholics Are Right - by Anomalocaris - May 26, 2011 at 1:45 am
RE: Why Catholics Are Right - by OnlyNatural - May 27, 2011 at 10:20 pm
RE: Why Catholics Are Right - by tackattack - May 26, 2011 at 6:10 am
RE: Why Catholics Are Right - by TLIG4EVER - May 26, 2011 at 6:18 am
RE: Why Catholics Are Right - by Doubting Thomas - May 26, 2011 at 12:02 pm
RE: Why Catholics Are Right - by TLIG4EVER - May 26, 2011 at 7:44 pm
RE: Why Catholics Are Right - by Cinjin - May 27, 2011 at 1:48 am
RE: Why Catholics Are Right - by tackattack - May 27, 2011 at 5:09 am
RE: Why Catholics Are Right - by Cinjin - May 27, 2011 at 7:23 pm
RE: Why Catholics Are Right - by Ace Otana - May 27, 2011 at 5:50 am
RE: Why Catholics Are Right - by Doubting Thomas - May 27, 2011 at 4:15 pm
RE: Why Catholics Are Right - by Rev. Rye - May 27, 2011 at 7:37 pm
RE: Why Catholics Are Right - by Cinjin - May 27, 2011 at 8:27 pm
RE: Why Catholics Are Right - by Minimalist - May 27, 2011 at 10:41 pm
RE: Why Catholics Are Right - by tackattack - May 28, 2011 at 7:12 am

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