Why do the ritors ask for Justice?

[Drich]

[quote='Drich' pid='1404163' dateline='1475096677']
And again, I said you can not alpha a cop. Meaning you can not intimidate your way out of being arrested. You can't fight your way out of being arrested. Again If a cop has it in his mind you are going to be arrested then that is what will happen.

And again what you do not seem to still understand is that being arrested does not automatically mean you are guilty of a crime or need to goto jail.

To directly answer your question these men were released because the charges were dropped by the person who filed them or were dropped by someone in a police station or someone like the DA who works with them.


Now the part that you don't seem to get is I am saying if a cop has it in his mind you need to be taken into custody then either he or the army of police standing behind him is going to arrest or kill you. So there is no point in fighting. Now does being taken in mean your going to jail? No. It simply is the start of the 'due process' you are entitled to as a citizen. If their was a procedural or it is determined the wrong person was detained mistake made then more than likely (if they can admit it) then by this 'due process' you will be kicked/let go. I can only assume as I have no way to verify that they were indeed let go that it is because of due process. However in the case of your fan fiction, you can create your own narrative as to the reason why he was let go as that was not even a real arrest.

So again, the short answer is the reason people are let go after being arrested with no trial... the answer is "due process of the law." And arrest does not = a conviction. Only a moron thinks that just because one is arrested that means he is automatically going to jail.


What's up with all the filibustering? You typed all that without answering anything.

If you could be bother to read what i wrote you will see i did indeed take alot of time answering each and every question you brought up.

You seem to be ignoring facts that critically wound your argument.

Perhaps since i spend so much time breaking down your argument and going point by point showing just how and why you are wrong, you could do the same. rather than making sweeping generalizations like the lazy atheists do.

It is YOUR position that you should NEVER resist arrest, correct?

yes

My point is if that is true, Then why were the assault, and resisting arrest charges dropped on the 2 men when they clearly were on video fighting with cops?

let's try something different since you seem to be going blind to facts on me..

1) show proof that these were even legit arrests.
2) Show that charges were dismissed.

Once you show me some paper work, I can then show you why it was deem ok that these two were let go. (If that did indeed happen)

Or you can google "due process of the Law" for yourself.

Again, you seem to be blocking out all knowledge of this term. But that is why it is never ok to resist and yet people do get set free.

They weren't set free because the resisted I can assure you. they were set free because Due process probably showed the arrest to be bad. Which again is not for you to determine, like it was not up to those guy to determine this either. DUE PROCESS determined this.

I didn't ask WHO dropped the charges, I want to know WHY they were dropped when the men WERE CLEARLY CAUGHT ASSAULTING COP ON VIDEO, got it? Are you saying the prosecutor dropped the charges out of the goodness of her heart?

And I am saying everything you say here is simple minded speculation. How do I know you did not just yank to random you tube videos and create a narritive you change to support your arguement no matter what I say?

Again proof, proof, proof so me some proof.

Also why did the city of Detroit pay out $120,000 to these men after they clearly resisted arrest?

Again proof, proof, proof so me some proof.

It would seem the "governing authorities" found that they did nothing wrong by resisting an unlawful arrest, correct?

According to your narrative..

So Again proof, proof, proof so me some proof.

And I can tell you exactly why they were released.

Huggs I do respect you but this is the dumbest thing you've ever said.
James Holems did not point his gun at cops. When confronted by cops he complied and was taken peacefully...

So why is this the single dumbest thing you've ever said?

Because your an idiot if you think tamir or James' crimes had ANYTHING to do with their outcomes.

Tamir died because the cop thought he was going to be shot/killed by a 1911 .45 semi automatic.

James lived because he folded like a house of cards. when he was told to do X he did not scream at the cops he did not pull a gun from his belt. He did what he was told when he was told.

That is my whole point. Let the cops have control of the situation and even if you are arrested you will live. Fight a cop go for a gun (real or not) and you die.

Why is it 95% of the population understands this, and 5% think this is too much to ask?

Again, dylan did what he was told when he was told.. Cops are not judges their primary job is to make an arrest. if you will not allow them to arrest you they are to subdue you. If you will not be subued or threaten their lives then they are to take you by force NO MATTER WHAT YOUR ORIGINAL CRIME IS. However if you comply then they Must take you alive. NO MATTER WHAT YOUR CRIME IS!

That is why those murders lived and Tamir died.

So are you off the idea that the bible says we are to resist arrest? Did Jesus' example/submission to Authorities despite their authority over you, show you that your position (that it is ok to resist police if you are innocent/right are violated) is wrong/unchristian?

*emphasis mine*

Oh so what you're saying is that James Holmes and Dylan Roof were given an opportunity to surrender, correct?

Are you saying ALL the black men shot by cop were not given the chance to surrender? I looked at the last 5 videos and every single one the black guy is running or fighting with the cops... Again the two white boys did everything they were told when they were told that is the only reason the lived. You put either one of these two murders infront of a cop pulling a gun from their belt or pointing one at a cop they are dead.

Show me in this video where Tamir pulled out his gun and screamed at the cops, or had any opportunity to surrender for that matter.

1:15 to 1:25 point the gun at a passer by
4:32 4:50 point gun at something/someone off camera seems to have some words/gustures.
8:32 tamir jacket goes up where he has the gun tucked in the waist ban.