Question for deists: Why is there a Creator?

[reverendjeremiah]

The deistic god is perfect? That's news to me. It needn't be infinite, just smart enough/powerful enough to create this universe (vast, but not infinite) this is the deistic god we're talking about, not the Judeo-christian one. The deistic god is at the least indifferent, unwilling or unable to help (or has gone off and doesn't know it's needed), hardly a perfect being (notice how it eliminates the problem of evil though). Supposing that the deity ISN'T perfect, Pandeism then provides some possible reasons for creation (as does deism, but I think pandeism does it better).

But I feel that the reasoning behind it is seccondary, the point is the creation, after that it's speculation.

edit: or were you talking to the muslim? Well the point is that these are not concerns in terms of the deistic/pandeistic gods.

I do agree with your point about the jewis/christian/muslim god moving from perfection to imperfection being yet another logic hole in an already holey (Gettit?) story.

Making the world 'perfect' wouldn't be the 'ideal' life for some of us?... erm... er..... er...

I was making that post in reply to the Muslim.