RE: I am a theist, what do you think of my proof for God existing?
October 24, 2016 at 3:52 pm
(This post was last modified: October 24, 2016 at 3:53 pm by Simon Moon.)
(October 24, 2016 at 5:27 am)Mariosep Wrote: This is my proof for God existing.
1. Formulate the information of the concept of God, thus:
"God in concept is first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning."
2. Look for instances of causation in reality outside of concepts in our mind.
3. We find countless examples of causation in reality outside of concepts in our mind.
4. From the countless instances of causation in reality, we infer to the existence of a first and ultimate cause.
5. We find that the first and ultimate cause of all instances of causation in reality corresponds to our information on the concept of God, namely, the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning.
6. Conclusion: God exists in concept as first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning.
What do you think about my proof for the existence of God?
Welcome to the forum!
Your version of cosmological argument is just as flawed as every other version.
Just to start, your argument is based on the fallacy of composition. Just because something is true for something within the universe, does not mean it is true of the universe itself.
Not to mention, causation is necessarily a temporal event. The god you are positing, if it was capable of causing events, would have to exist in a realm which also has time. Who created the realm your god exists within?
There are many more problems with your argument, but these are enough to show that it is logically invalid.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
