RE: I am a theist, what do you think of my proof for God existing?
October 25, 2016 at 11:53 am
(October 25, 2016 at 11:26 am)MysticKnight Wrote:(October 25, 2016 at 10:49 am)LadyForCamus Wrote: None of those things are "proofs", MK. They are just things you declare without evidence to be true, because you really want them to be true.
You basically have to deny EVERYTHING you know about yourself to deny ANY Of these proofs.
Sorry but it was all Word Salad with undefined terms and huge assumptions.
(October 25, 2016 at 10:15 am)MysticKnight Wrote: One of the greatest proofs is that our real true selves requires an absolute perception to exist.
What do you mean by True Self? Absolute Perception?
(October 25, 2016 at 10:15 am)MysticKnight Wrote: And one of the greatest proofs is by stages of praise and excellence, we know there is an absolute being who heightens and who is who the praise ascends to.
This is not a proof but a statement.
(October 25, 2016 at 10:15 am)MysticKnight Wrote: And one of the greatest proofs is that no possible hypothetical Creator in any possible world can create morality out of nothing and without already existing, meaning neither can evolution, as evolution and everything it makes can be created by a Creator. This shows it's eternal.
You're assuming objective morality exists and isn't solely a human construct. Shows it's eternal? How?
(October 25, 2016 at 10:15 am)MysticKnight Wrote: And one of the greatest proofs is that the good word ascends to him and hence proves his existence.
What does this even mean? What good word? What does it mean to ascend to him? Have you measured this happening? How would you?
(October 25, 2016 at 10:15 am)MysticKnight Wrote: And one of the greatest proofs is that our innermost secret is unknown by us but forms an essential part our existence and requires absolute perception and judgement.
What innermost secret? I haven't told anyone about my Y-front fetish. What is absolute perception and judgement? Why would it require this?
(October 25, 2016 at 10:15 am)MysticKnight Wrote: And one of the greatest proofs is our compare anaylsis to everyone must be based on truth but it's not, which points to a true judgement that maintains who and others are, rather then our bad judgement.
What does that even mean?
(October 25, 2016 at 10:15 am)MysticKnight Wrote: And one the greatest proofs is that value to exist must get it's existence from absolute value and absolute value must be it's basis.
Value is applied by a third party and does not exist but is nothing more than a concept. What is absolute value? How would you recognise or measure it?
(October 25, 2016 at 10:15 am)MysticKnight Wrote: And one of the greatest proofs is applying the Euthyphro dilemma to evolution.
I had never head of this dilemma before, but what I googled wasn't even pseudo science.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euthyphro_dilemma
Quote:The Euthyphro dilemma is found in Plato's dialogue Euthyphro, in which Socrates asks Euthyphro, "Is the pious (τὸ ὅσιον) loved by the gods because it is pious, or is it pious because it is loved by the gods?"
This has nothing to do with evolution. You haven't defined what pious means or how to measure it and you're making the assumption that there are gods (whatever a god is). Nor have you described how it is relevant to a physical process such as Darwinian evolution.