Thanks a lot to the founders and owners and operators of this forum, all hail to them that I am still around.
Dear atheist colleagues, please do not derail this thread with harping on my not employing all the codes here, but I am already into a trial to change WYSIWYG edit to simple edit, but I am not succeeding.
At least I am like the proverbial cat whether black or white it catches the mice, and is loved by its cat loving owner.
Another house-cleaning chore from my part for my landscape view here, please abstain dear atheist colleagues here from the sh** and fu** words, because I beg of you, it is not doing credit to, as you are atheists, to this Atheistforums.org.
You atheist colleagues keep on and on saying that you don't see my proof to be any proof, but I ask you to show me an example of how if ever you prove something to exist in objective reality, and I am not getting any at all; please at least see that I have presented a proof, you also present an example of a proof of something existing, step by step, before you even repeat again and again that I don't have proof for God existing - here goes: in concept first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning.
Our presence here in this Atheistforums website and that it is working properly is also evidence for the existence of God, in concept as first and foremost etc.
Addressing Mathilda: it seems that you are quite active here recently, so I will reproduce my OP, and you tell me just one thing only per post what is wrong with my proof for God existing.
Please do not insist that you have already said what is or are wrong with my proof, for it is possible that you could have better things to say now on what is or are wrong with my proof for God exists, but just limit it to one thing wrong per post.
I propose that you focus on causation, because you just bring up first cause and asking me what about the cause of the first cause.
How can any human person know what is proof by evidence when it comes to God existing - here goes: in concept as first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning, when he does not master the phenomenon of causation which is one of the components of existence.
Tell you what, dear atheist colleague, Mathilda, think about this statement from yours truly:
"The default status of things in the totality of reality is existence."
When you think on truths, facts, logic, and the history of ideas from your purest reasoning faculty and intelligence, it will be like Eureka from Archimedes: God exists!!! In concept as first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning!!!
In the meantime I am trying to observe whether my attempt is succeeding to shift from WYSIWYG edit here in this forum, to writing in plain ascii characters, and also thereby editing it with codes?
I am trying to shift to plain edit by reading up on questions in the web addressed to masters of style in Atheistforums.
Anyway, please dear atheist colleagues here, I am the proverbial cat that though black or white, I assure you that I always catch the mice, but only when my pet owner has good literacy and loves me.
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Dear atheist colleagues, please do not derail this thread with harping on my not employing all the codes here, but I am already into a trial to change WYSIWYG edit to simple edit, but I am not succeeding.
At least I am like the proverbial cat whether black or white it catches the mice, and is loved by its cat loving owner.
Another house-cleaning chore from my part for my landscape view here, please abstain dear atheist colleagues here from the sh** and fu** words, because I beg of you, it is not doing credit to, as you are atheists, to this Atheistforums.org.
You atheist colleagues keep on and on saying that you don't see my proof to be any proof, but I ask you to show me an example of how if ever you prove something to exist in objective reality, and I am not getting any at all; please at least see that I have presented a proof, you also present an example of a proof of something existing, step by step, before you even repeat again and again that I don't have proof for God existing - here goes: in concept first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning.
Our presence here in this Atheistforums website and that it is working properly is also evidence for the existence of God, in concept as first and foremost etc.
Addressing Mathilda: it seems that you are quite active here recently, so I will reproduce my OP, and you tell me just one thing only per post what is wrong with my proof for God existing.
Please do not insist that you have already said what is or are wrong with my proof, for it is possible that you could have better things to say now on what is or are wrong with my proof for God exists, but just limit it to one thing wrong per post.
I propose that you focus on causation, because you just bring up first cause and asking me what about the cause of the first cause.
How can any human person know what is proof by evidence when it comes to God existing - here goes: in concept as first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning, when he does not master the phenomenon of causation which is one of the components of existence.
Tell you what, dear atheist colleague, Mathilda, think about this statement from yours truly:
"The default status of things in the totality of reality is existence."
When you think on truths, facts, logic, and the history of ideas from your purest reasoning faculty and intelligence, it will be like Eureka from Archimedes: God exists!!! In concept as first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning!!!
In the meantime I am trying to observe whether my attempt is succeeding to shift from WYSIWYG edit here in this forum, to writing in plain ascii characters, and also thereby editing it with codes?
I am trying to shift to plain edit by reading up on questions in the web addressed to masters of style in Atheistforums.
Anyway, please dear atheist colleagues here, I am the proverbial cat that though black or white, I assure you that I always catch the mice, but only when my pet owner has good literacy and loves me.
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(October 24, 2016 at 5:27 am)Mariosep Wrote: This is my proof for God existing.
1. Formulate the information of the concept of God, thus:
"God in concept is first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning."
2. Look for instances of causation in reality outside of concepts in our mind.
3. We find countless examples of causation in reality outside of concepts in our mind.
4. From the countless instances of causation in reality, we infer to the existence of a first and ultimate cause.
5. We find that the first and ultimate cause of all instances of causation in reality corresponds to our information on the concept of God, namely, the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning.
6. Conclusion: God exists in concept as first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning.
What do you think about my proof for the existence of God?
