LOL ..I'm struggling too!
Seemed clear at the time!
to re-phrase the first bit, as that didn't help..
Even if they didn't "entirely under their own steam, believe that Jesus died for their sins and acted on that."?
That would be more than odd to me. (i.e. it would be odd that they considered themselves Christians as well as universal church members if they didn't practice conversion)
All Christianity was born via Jesus himself. I don't think what became known as the Catholic Church was established as such until about 300AD, with the compromise with Rome to share power.. Christians claim common ancestry with Catholicism. I don't think there's any real argument until the reformation, although the allegiance with Rome seems a particularly anti Christ move. The early pope's certainly don't sound like they were on plan

to re-phrase the first bit, as that didn't help..
Even if they didn't "entirely under their own steam, believe that Jesus died for their sins and acted on that."?
That would be more than odd to me. (i.e. it would be odd that they considered themselves Christians as well as universal church members if they didn't practice conversion)
All Christianity was born via Jesus himself. I don't think what became known as the Catholic Church was established as such until about 300AD, with the compromise with Rome to share power.. Christians claim common ancestry with Catholicism. I don't think there's any real argument until the reformation, although the allegiance with Rome seems a particularly anti Christ move. The early pope's certainly don't sound like they were on plan