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It's official, the election was stolen
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RE: It's official, the election was stolen
(November 21, 2016 at 11:44 pm)vorlon13 Wrote:
(November 21, 2016 at 11:36 pm)Cato Wrote: I don't deny the existence of the mechanisms reported; however, this is very different than someone actually being deprived of their vote. This has not been demonstrated let alone in numbers that would have 'stolen' the election. People systematically being denied a vote is as rare as those that actually commit voter fraud.

And it would have been amazingly fine tuned to have not targeted double the # of Black/Latino voters that voted for Romney that were going to vote for Trump, but not their next door neighbors that were going to vote for Hillary.

I guess we need a new term:

nano-gerrymandering
@Vor
It -was- amazingly fine tuned, to favor republicans, though some of those targeted for disenfranchisement were almost certainly red voters- collateral damage.  It;s not as if they didn't have alot of data to back up their gamble that whatever fraction of an area went red, it would be miniscule compared to the blue, and on that basis nixed it. The geographical spread of voters isn't a dotted landscape of red house blue house red house blue house. If you live in a blue neighborhood and your nextdoor neighbor is voting red, he's a statistically insignificant aberration, the same is true in reverse.

@Cato
That's a hell of a dodge to use in context.  Sure, some of those targeted in carolina, for example, may have used the twelve weeks notice they had -if they were made aware- to comply with new voting regulations.  This doesn;t really help in the case of crosscheck or the shutting down of polling places. Many of the voter suppression laws (let's call them what they are) were so transparently bad that various bodies forced them to be changed before election time, so that can throw off the numbers as well, worth mentioning. Some, if they were made aware, maybe. What portion of those targeted for disenfranchisement would you be comfortable with having actually -been- disenfranchised? Gimme a percentage and I can redo the math to see whether or not it would have swung the vote another way. Smart money says yes, lol.
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It's official, the election was stolen - by Pat Mustard - November 20, 2016 at 7:44 am
RE: It's official, the election was stolen - by Alex K - November 20, 2016 at 8:07 am
RE: It's official, the election was stolen - by Pat Mustard - November 20, 2016 at 8:24 am
RE: It's official, the election was stolen - by abaris - November 20, 2016 at 10:23 am
RE: It's official, the election was stolen - by TaraJo - November 20, 2016 at 10:13 am
RE: It's official, the election was stolen - by Joods - November 22, 2016 at 12:45 am
RE: It's official, the election was stolen - by Cato - November 20, 2016 at 10:25 am
RE: It's official, the election was stolen - by vorlon13 - November 20, 2016 at 11:02 am
RE: It's official, the election was stolen - by Pat Mustard - November 20, 2016 at 2:04 pm
RE: It's official, the election was stolen - by Cato - November 21, 2016 at 11:36 pm
RE: It's official, the election was stolen - by Faith No More - November 21, 2016 at 11:42 pm
RE: It's official, the election was stolen - by Cato - November 22, 2016 at 12:29 am
RE: It's official, the election was stolen - by vorlon13 - November 21, 2016 at 11:44 pm
RE: It's official, the election was stolen - by Cato - November 22, 2016 at 10:48 pm
RE: It's official, the election was stolen - by chimp3 - November 20, 2016 at 10:26 am
RE: It's official, the election was stolen - by dyresand - November 25, 2016 at 10:15 pm
RE: It's official, the election was stolen - by Aegon - November 20, 2016 at 10:46 am
RE: It's official, the election was stolen - by Divinity - November 20, 2016 at 10:50 am
RE: It's official, the election was stolen - by abaris - November 20, 2016 at 11:26 am
RE: It's official, the election was stolen - by PETE_ROSE - November 20, 2016 at 11:00 am
RE: It's official, the election was stolen - by Kosh - November 20, 2016 at 11:11 am
RE: It's official, the election was stolen - by Silver - November 20, 2016 at 11:19 am
RE: It's official, the election was stolen - by vorlon13 - November 20, 2016 at 11:29 am
RE: It's official, the election was stolen - by Whateverist - November 22, 2016 at 10:37 am
RE: It's official, the election was stolen - by vorlon13 - November 20, 2016 at 11:31 am
RE: It's official, the election was stolen - by vorlon13 - November 20, 2016 at 11:32 am
RE: It's official, the election was stolen - by vorlon13 - November 20, 2016 at 11:35 am
RE: It's official, the election was stolen - by Minimalist - November 21, 2016 at 3:49 pm
RE: It's official, the election was stolen - by Minimalist - November 21, 2016 at 9:52 pm
RE: It's official, the election was stolen - by The Grand Nudger - November 22, 2016 at 9:06 am
RE: It's official, the election was stolen - by Drich - November 22, 2016 at 1:01 pm
RE: It's official, the election was stolen - by vorlon13 - November 22, 2016 at 2:32 pm
RE: It's official, the election was stolen - by Whateverist - November 22, 2016 at 2:44 pm
RE: It's official, the election was stolen - by vorlon13 - November 22, 2016 at 2:51 pm
RE: It's official, the election was stolen - by Cato - November 22, 2016 at 10:35 pm
RE: It's official, the election was stolen - by Aroura - November 22, 2016 at 11:49 pm
RE: It's official, the election was stolen - by Aegon - November 23, 2016 at 12:04 am
RE: It's official, the election was stolen - by Cato - November 23, 2016 at 12:26 am
RE: It's official, the election was stolen - by Pat Mustard - November 24, 2016 at 7:54 am
RE: It's official, the election was stolen - by Cato - November 24, 2016 at 11:15 am
RE: It's official, the election was stolen - by Autumnlicious - November 24, 2016 at 2:25 pm
RE: It's official, the election was stolen - by Opoponax - November 24, 2016 at 10:09 pm
RE: It's official, the election was stolen - by Silver - November 24, 2016 at 10:21 pm
RE: It's official, the election was stolen - by Silver - November 24, 2016 at 10:43 pm
RE: It's official, the election was stolen - by brewer - November 24, 2016 at 10:42 pm
RE: It's official, the election was stolen - by brewer - November 25, 2016 at 6:33 pm
RE: It's official, the election was stolen - by vorlon13 - November 26, 2016 at 12:07 am
RE: It's official, the election was stolen - by ReptilianPeon - November 27, 2016 at 5:14 am
RE: It's official, the election was stolen - by Minimalist - November 26, 2016 at 12:14 am
RE: It's official, the election was stolen - by vorlon13 - November 26, 2016 at 12:31 am
RE: It's official, the election was stolen - by Aroura - November 26, 2016 at 1:29 am
RE: It's official, the election was stolen - by Cato - November 26, 2016 at 9:32 am
RE: It's official, the election was stolen - by Amarok - December 9, 2016 at 1:00 pm
RE: It's official, the election was stolen - by Mystical - December 9, 2016 at 12:50 pm
RE: It's official, the election was stolen - by Pat Mustard - December 9, 2016 at 1:23 pm
RE: It's official, the election was stolen - by Mystical - December 9, 2016 at 3:59 pm
RE: It's official, the election was stolen - by Tonus - December 9, 2016 at 4:39 pm
RE: It's official, the election was stolen - by Minimalist - December 10, 2016 at 2:26 am
RE: It's official, the election was stolen - by Cato - December 11, 2016 at 2:41 am
RE: It's official, the election was stolen - by downbeatplumb - December 10, 2016 at 5:24 am
RE: It's official, the election was stolen - by Iroscato - December 11, 2016 at 2:59 am
RE: It's official, the election was stolen - by Minimalist - December 11, 2016 at 3:23 am
RE: It's official, the election was stolen - by downbeatplumb - December 11, 2016 at 4:42 am
RE: It's official, the election was stolen - by vorlon13 - December 11, 2016 at 11:30 am

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