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Would you attack the Church if you could?
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RE: Would you attack the Church if you could?
(November 30, 2016 at 4:24 pm)Stimbo Wrote: I'm sorry, but the "they do it too" line won't fly. It's not about the relative numbers of molesters in different professions; I think we're all agreed that even one is too many. Rather, it's far more about what is done about these people when their offences come to light. The church has a history of protecting them even from investigation, denying them at the very least the opportunity of clearing their names. Priests have been moved around anonymously, to other areas with potentially fresh victims. A few years ago the catholic church in Ireland passed an edict, essentially prohibiting priests from discussing these matters with the authorities, meaning that every single Irish priest was suspect in the public mind, innocent or not.

Look at the furore that blew up over here with Operation Yewtree and the so-called disgraced BBC personalities. Can you imagine what would have happened if it been decided to keep it an internal matter, with super-injunctions preventing even the fact that people like Jimmy Savile were being questioned let alone found guilty? Auntie Beeb would be torn apart faster than you can say "owzabout that then"

My objection was to stereotyping priests in particular as child molesters when they don't do it any more than the average man, and less than people in some other vocations. I wasn't trying to say it wasn't bad. Yes, one is too many. 

I agree that those individuals responsible for either molestation or covering up should get reprimanded for their crimes. But they by no means make up all Priests, all Bishops, all Cardinals, or even Pope Francis. Which is why I take issue with someone on here saying they fantasize about killing all of them in horrible ways.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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Would you attack the Church if you could? - by Macoleco - November 27, 2016 at 2:07 am
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by Iroscato - November 27, 2016 at 2:33 am
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by Macoleco - November 27, 2016 at 2:51 am
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by Astreja - November 27, 2016 at 3:15 am
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by robvalue - November 27, 2016 at 3:32 am
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by AceBoogie - December 1, 2016 at 9:05 am
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by PETE_ROSE - December 1, 2016 at 10:53 pm
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by AceBoogie - December 2, 2016 at 2:10 am
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by Alex K - November 27, 2016 at 3:40 am
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by Iroscato - November 27, 2016 at 4:02 am
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by Alex K - November 27, 2016 at 6:00 am
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by Alex K - December 2, 2016 at 4:24 pm
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by robvalue - November 27, 2016 at 4:40 am
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by robvalue - November 27, 2016 at 6:12 am
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by Little Rik - November 27, 2016 at 7:33 am
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by paulpablo - November 27, 2016 at 7:20 am
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by Longhorn - November 27, 2016 at 5:07 am
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by RozKek - November 27, 2016 at 6:38 am
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by Cyberman - November 27, 2016 at 8:49 am
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by chimp3 - November 27, 2016 at 9:16 am
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by brewer - November 27, 2016 at 9:26 am
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by Whateverist - November 27, 2016 at 12:10 pm
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by Minimalist - November 27, 2016 at 12:10 pm
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by vorlon13 - November 27, 2016 at 12:20 pm
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by Brian37 - November 27, 2016 at 12:35 pm
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by Foxaèr - November 27, 2016 at 1:48 pm
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by Macoleco - November 27, 2016 at 2:27 pm
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by Macoleco - November 30, 2016 at 2:49 pm
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by Crossless1 - November 30, 2016 at 2:57 pm
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by Macoleco - November 30, 2016 at 3:56 pm
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by Macoleco - November 30, 2016 at 6:01 pm
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by Zenith - November 30, 2016 at 12:15 pm
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by PETE_ROSE - November 30, 2016 at 2:06 pm
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by vorlon13 - November 30, 2016 at 2:52 pm
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by Crossless1 - November 30, 2016 at 3:26 pm
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by Macoleco - December 1, 2016 at 9:00 pm
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by Cyberman - December 2, 2016 at 12:57 pm
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by Macoleco - December 2, 2016 at 6:49 pm
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by Cyberman - December 2, 2016 at 1:09 pm
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by Cyberman - November 30, 2016 at 4:24 pm
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by Catholic_Lady - November 30, 2016 at 4:43 pm
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by Amarok - November 30, 2016 at 4:38 pm
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by vorlon13 - November 30, 2016 at 4:43 pm
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by vorlon13 - December 1, 2016 at 4:57 pm
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by vorlon13 - December 2, 2016 at 1:26 pm
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by vorlon13 - December 14, 2016 at 10:52 pm
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by vorlon13 - December 1, 2016 at 11:01 pm
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by rado84 - December 2, 2016 at 2:20 am
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by Shell B - December 2, 2016 at 1:03 pm
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by vorlon13 - December 2, 2016 at 2:09 pm
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by Cyberman - December 2, 2016 at 2:12 pm
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by vorlon13 - December 2, 2016 at 2:32 pm
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by Joods - December 2, 2016 at 2:14 pm
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by Cyberman - December 2, 2016 at 7:00 pm
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by Tonus - December 2, 2016 at 7:05 pm
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by Macoleco - December 2, 2016 at 7:06 pm
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by Macoleco - December 2, 2016 at 8:01 pm
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by Cyberman - December 2, 2016 at 7:16 pm
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by Regina - December 2, 2016 at 7:18 pm
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by Cyberman - December 2, 2016 at 8:40 pm
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by Macoleco - December 2, 2016 at 11:13 pm
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by Mr Greene - December 5, 2016 at 7:55 am

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