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Would you attack the Church if you could?
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RE: Would you attack the Church if you could?
and we can look at that 1500 years of internal documentation 2 ways;

1)yeah, it'd be nice if after 1500 years the church wasn't still doing the coverup/reassign/stifle thing

2)in 1500 years, didn't it occur to anybody to destroy the paper trail ?


With the first, it might seem in all that time more effective ways of dealing with the issue might have been developed besides denying there's a problem, shuffling priests to new areas with fresh (unaware) victims, and suing victims to shut them up. And the second one is perhaps even more puzzling, destroying evidence would seem to be a no brainer, but even that simple solution to the problem seems to not have occurred to anyone in the church hierarchy.

With no records, the church could just say, well, this is a new problem, we had no idea how to deal with it, so we will do better now. For instance, no victim or their families will be sued any more, or required to sign secrecy agreements, and instead of just reassigning problem priests, the church poohbahs involved with covering up for the molesters will be in trouble now too, and the problem priests won't be reassigned anymore.

But with records going back 15 centuries, the church's response to this problem should be a little better thought out, particularly in regards to the suing the victims aspect. Tough to buy the 'Gee, we had no idea' BS when it is abundantly clear they did, and did for one and a 1/2 millennia.
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Would you attack the Church if you could? - by Macoleco - November 27, 2016 at 2:07 am
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by Iroscato - November 27, 2016 at 2:33 am
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by Macoleco - November 27, 2016 at 2:51 am
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by Astreja - November 27, 2016 at 3:15 am
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by robvalue - November 27, 2016 at 3:32 am
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by AceBoogie - December 1, 2016 at 9:05 am
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by PETE_ROSE - December 1, 2016 at 10:53 pm
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by AceBoogie - December 2, 2016 at 2:10 am
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by Alex K - November 27, 2016 at 3:40 am
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by Iroscato - November 27, 2016 at 4:02 am
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by Alex K - November 27, 2016 at 6:00 am
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by Alex K - December 2, 2016 at 4:24 pm
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by robvalue - November 27, 2016 at 4:40 am
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by robvalue - November 27, 2016 at 6:12 am
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by Little Rik - November 27, 2016 at 7:33 am
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by paulpablo - November 27, 2016 at 7:20 am
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by Longhorn - November 27, 2016 at 5:07 am
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by deleteduser12345 - November 27, 2016 at 6:38 am
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by Cyberman - November 27, 2016 at 8:49 am
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by chimp3 - November 27, 2016 at 9:16 am
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by brewer - November 27, 2016 at 9:26 am
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by Whateverist - November 27, 2016 at 12:10 pm
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by Minimalist - November 27, 2016 at 12:10 pm
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by vorlon13 - November 27, 2016 at 12:20 pm
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by Brian37 - November 27, 2016 at 12:35 pm
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by Silver - November 27, 2016 at 1:48 pm
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by Macoleco - November 27, 2016 at 2:27 pm
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by Macoleco - November 30, 2016 at 2:49 pm
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by Crossless1 - November 30, 2016 at 2:57 pm
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by Macoleco - November 30, 2016 at 3:56 pm
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by Macoleco - November 30, 2016 at 6:01 pm
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by Zenith - November 30, 2016 at 12:15 pm
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by PETE_ROSE - November 30, 2016 at 2:06 pm
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by vorlon13 - November 30, 2016 at 2:52 pm
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by Crossless1 - November 30, 2016 at 3:26 pm
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by Macoleco - December 1, 2016 at 9:00 pm
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by Cyberman - December 2, 2016 at 12:57 pm
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by Macoleco - December 2, 2016 at 6:49 pm
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by Cyberman - December 2, 2016 at 1:09 pm
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by Cyberman - November 30, 2016 at 4:24 pm
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by Amarok - November 30, 2016 at 4:38 pm
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by vorlon13 - November 30, 2016 at 4:43 pm
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by vorlon13 - December 1, 2016 at 4:57 pm
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by vorlon13 - December 2, 2016 at 1:26 pm
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by vorlon13 - December 14, 2016 at 10:52 pm
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by vorlon13 - December 1, 2016 at 11:01 pm
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by rado84 - December 2, 2016 at 2:20 am
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by Shell B - December 2, 2016 at 1:03 pm
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by vorlon13 - December 2, 2016 at 2:09 pm
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by Cyberman - December 2, 2016 at 2:12 pm
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by vorlon13 - December 2, 2016 at 2:32 pm
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by Joods - December 2, 2016 at 2:14 pm
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by Cyberman - December 2, 2016 at 7:00 pm
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by Tonus - December 2, 2016 at 7:05 pm
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by Macoleco - December 2, 2016 at 7:06 pm
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by Macoleco - December 2, 2016 at 8:01 pm
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by Cyberman - December 2, 2016 at 7:16 pm
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by Regina - December 2, 2016 at 7:18 pm
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by Cyberman - December 2, 2016 at 8:40 pm
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by Macoleco - December 2, 2016 at 11:13 pm
RE: Would you attack the Church if you could? - by Mr Greene - December 5, 2016 at 7:55 am

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