RE: Trump orders wall to be built on Mexico border
January 26, 2017 at 3:29 pm
(This post was last modified: January 26, 2017 at 3:31 pm by Catholic_Lady.)
(January 26, 2017 at 3:07 pm)A Theist Wrote:(January 26, 2017 at 1:28 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: For those who support the wall...
This isn't a liberal vs conservative, Trump vs Anti Trump, anti immigration vs pro immigration thing. Just answer objectively with no biases for any particular "side" you feel you need to be on:
Do you really think spending all this money building this wall is a good, effective idea, all things considered?
The wall is part of a layered plan to secure our borders along Mexico. In addition to the wall 5000 more border patrol agents will be hired plus new surveillance and other equipment. Although it's the central focus, there's more to securing our borders than just that.
Why not just have the extra border patrol and surveillance though? People have already talked about how someone could just as easily get through with a ladder. What good is a wall going to do, that would make it worth the crazy amounts of money being spent on it?
(January 26, 2017 at 3:27 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote:(January 26, 2017 at 3:23 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: When I ask a genuine question, I would appreciate being given the respect of a response coming from you, in your words, and in the form of a human to human discussion. Not a copy pasta. But alright, I'll roll with it.
This sounds like it's saying it would be purely a symbolic thing... for the sake of principle. The principle being to make a clear, physical distinction between "our culture" and "their culture". Are you admitting then that the wall will probably not physically keep illegals from getting in?
As an immigrant myself, I believe in controlling our borders as every country does. But not for the reason of some sort of "culture preservation."
Yeah, I was actually a little confused at that copy/paste. For me, that excerpt is a great argument against building the wall, because it's not about terrorism or violence or crime...it's about saying who "belongs" in America. It literally uses the Irish, Chinese, etc examples...which are certainly not a positive thing to which our actions would want to be compared.
Right....
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