(January 26, 2017 at 4:37 pm)Khemikal Wrote:(January 26, 2017 at 4:15 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: One thing I don't get is instead of spending exorbitant amounts of money in deportation and walls, why not make becoming a citizen very, very easy, cheap and fast?Easy question, the people who like walls and mass deportation aren't too fond of mexicans. No one wants to hear it, everyone wants there to be something more to it. There isn't.
Quote:We'd get them socials, IDs, they'd pay taxes, etc etc.hehehehe, they already do....
Quote:The biggest complaint I hear about immigrants is the "they take our jobs" and "they don't pay taxes" and "they're using gov't services without giving anything back." So...make it easy to become a citizen, and that kinda alleviates those problems, doesn't it? Or at least they'll be arrested if they don't pay taxes...like my uncle.Those aren't problems. No one is taking anyones job, they do pay taxes, and they aren't eligible for "government services" (I do so love how the language in the executive order makes that whistle an issue of national policy, though). The problem...is that they're just too damned mexican. They don't have to dodge taxes to get arrested, they can get arrested for driving while brown. You don't even have to be a mexican to get pulled for driving while brown, happens to plenty of citizens.
Oh, pesky, pesky facts. Always getting in the way of people's pre-conclusions.

Those are exactly my mother's gripes with the "illegals":
"I'm paying for them to be on welfare!" Um, no you aren't. They aren't eligible for government assistance. "Well, they don't pay taxes!" But...yes they do. "Well, they're taking our jobs!" No, they aren't. And in some declining cities near where I am from, they're actually BOOSTING the economy by starting up local businesses.
Needless to say...she hasn't budged on the issue. Go Trump...
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