RE: What is Your Definition of Reasonable Faith?
February 24, 2017 at 3:07 pm
(This post was last modified: February 24, 2017 at 3:13 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(February 24, 2017 at 2:58 pm)Kernel Sohcahtoa Wrote:I'd say that we could, but we don't...that's -why- failed concepts and definitions persist in the face of refutation. If god concepts were an issue of exactness and precision they;d have long ago fell by the wayside. God, for most, is a fuzzy feeling.
Agreed. People have conceptions/definitions of what a god is. However, can we make use of these definitions as we would mathematical definitions in writing mathematical proofs and solving mathematical problems? Hence, can we make use of god definitions/concepts with the same exactness and precision that we can use mathematical definitions/concepts? That is what I was curious about.
Quote:After reading your post and seeing the concept of a god from the perspective described in your post, I couldn't help but laugh at myself. You have given my king a well-deserved check, sir.I appreciate your amusement, truly. I'm all about the lulz.
Quote:Thank you for taking the time to clarify the difference, but I already understood this. My aim in that post, which was poorly communicated by me, was to ask the following question: is this conception of god actually beyond a "search for life" or "anything out there"? In essence, by saying that "the search for some god is neither a search for life, or for anything "out there" in the universe, nor does it require or entail equipment that could then be pointed to as a certifier or demonstration of it's results," are we closing off our imagination/understanding to matters which can actually be understood, searched for, and demonstrated to exist in our reality? Do god concepts ultimately inhibit human growth and humanity's understanding of the reality they occupy?
Depends on who you mean by "we". You, for example, make the comparison between alien and divine entities. God botherers resent such comparisons, deeply. As to the other bit, whether or not god concepts limit human growth...I can only point to a specific example and return the question to the one who asked. Christians believe in vicarious redemption. They have sacrificed the better man for their own gain. They accept this as the foundational pillar of their faith. That's what it means, to them, to be Christ...and what differentiates them from jews, who believe that to be the christ is to be something else (and theyre still waiting).
What do you think? Does the faithful adherence to notions of vicarious redemption inhibit human growth, or an understanding of the reality they occupy?
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