Sort of a burden of proof argument. It's hard to convince theists that the burden of proof lies on them. This is probably because theists are taught since they are very young that their way is true, without question. There is nothing to prove because they simply see things as being that way: That god is real and there is no need to prove His existence. They do not see it as a claim of god's existence, they see it as the fact of god's existence.
Unfortunately, one believing in something strongly is does not suffice in attempting to exclude it from the other multitudes of scientific claims that exist in the world. The claim that there is a divine intelligence that created existence itself is a scientific claim. To deny that claim is not necessarily a claim, in and of itself.
In every other area of life we tend to make claims as to how things are or were, not how things are not and were not. Yet theists feel the need to say that an absence of a claim is a claim in and of itself because that gives them a bit of an intellectual back door where they can start on the offensive instead of actually having to defend their beliefs (because who wants to do that? That takes effort).
So yea, I don't know where you guys live, but there's no bear in my backyard.
Unfortunately, one believing in something strongly is does not suffice in attempting to exclude it from the other multitudes of scientific claims that exist in the world. The claim that there is a divine intelligence that created existence itself is a scientific claim. To deny that claim is not necessarily a claim, in and of itself.
In every other area of life we tend to make claims as to how things are or were, not how things are not and were not. Yet theists feel the need to say that an absence of a claim is a claim in and of itself because that gives them a bit of an intellectual back door where they can start on the offensive instead of actually having to defend their beliefs (because who wants to do that? That takes effort).
So yea, I don't know where you guys live, but there's no bear in my backyard.
“Love is the only bow on Life’s dark cloud. It is the morning and the evening star. It shines upon the babe, and sheds its radiance on the quiet tomb. It is the mother of art, inspirer of poet, patriot and philosopher.
It is the air and light of every heart – builder of every home, kindler of every fire on every hearth. It was the first to dream of immortality. It fills the world with melody – for music is the voice of love.
Love is the magician, the enchanter, that changes worthless things to Joy, and makes royal kings and queens of common clay. It is the perfume of that wondrous flower, the heart, and without that sacred passion, that divine swoon, we are less than beasts; but with it, earth is heaven, and we are gods.” - Robert. G. Ingersoll
It is the air and light of every heart – builder of every home, kindler of every fire on every hearth. It was the first to dream of immortality. It fills the world with melody – for music is the voice of love.
Love is the magician, the enchanter, that changes worthless things to Joy, and makes royal kings and queens of common clay. It is the perfume of that wondrous flower, the heart, and without that sacred passion, that divine swoon, we are less than beasts; but with it, earth is heaven, and we are gods.” - Robert. G. Ingersoll
