(March 11, 2017 at 6:40 pm)Jesster Wrote:(March 11, 2017 at 6:36 pm)comet Wrote: There is nothing you can be and the universe not be.
We can discuss volumes (amounts) but not the fact.
You're backing up claims with more claims. Until you back up any of your claims with any evidence-based arguments, I'm not going to accept them. Now show that this is actually possible without just saying "because I said so".
it doesn't matter what you accept or not, that's what Neil means. You can believe what you want, it doesn't affect the science. the science points to this planet being part of the universe and not separated in any way. that means, what traits we have the universe must have. I can go into levels and levels of "facts", but if your anti-religion then they don't matter and will be dismissed. What you (or possibly me and neil) don't know, doesn't effect that.
I say, "Don't believe me, go learn more." Its useless talking about science with non science people. Thats what Neil means too. He means, try and be honest with ourselves too, if we don't know why would we go running around denying claims based on a belief, like, "lack belief in anything".
anti-logical Fallacies of Ambiguity