(March 11, 2017 at 7:35 pm)Jesster Wrote:(March 11, 2017 at 7:29 pm)comet Wrote: Based on your comment of 'baseless claim", I don't think you have enough understanding to claim "baseless claim". That's what Neil means too. But let me play along like you do. lets do a measurement. A crude one to be sure, but look up the definition of measurement. That way we are on the same page.
Compare the interactions of the biosphere to things we classify as non-life, viruses, and life.
What does it match the best to?
You claim to understand what Neil is saying, but that also seems to be a baseless claim. You are still confusing your own personal beliefs with fact.
The rest of that post doesn't seem to have a place in this topic. I don't mean to sound rude, but is English your native language?
(March 11, 2017 at 7:29 pm)comet Wrote: But it does mean your sandwich has, in parts, traits of a pickle. the pickle is part of a larger system that we classify as a sandwich. the pickle is part of something 'more" and may not "believe" its part of a more complex "sandwich".
again, as per neil, it doesn't matter what the pickle believes, it is part of what we classify as a sandwich. That's "how the universe works".
You seem to have missed the point. Claiming that the universe is alive is akin to claiming that a sandwich is a pickle.
No, you missed the point. it doesn't matter what the pickle believes. Its part of a more complex system that is the sandwich. If the pickle is 'alive" the sandwich" is more "alive". We classify that system (the sandwich) as more complex then the pickle. unless you don't understand that, then back to Neil's point we go.
did you make the comparison yet? the measurement is the best way to form an opinion. So lets not be baseless.
anti-logical Fallacies of Ambiguity
