appeal to the group? lmao. The point is to show you what neil really means. Science is about recording observations then drawing conclusions.
"pointless" measurement means you guy don't really understand what a measurement is. To measure, we take and unknown and compare it to a standard. the standard has no meaning past "we all agree on it." If we can't agree the a cell represents what we call alive then who exactly is pointless? I also made it clear that the measurement is crude, but its better than none.
I figured you guys would run away, avoid, and dismiss so that your conclusions match your view of atheism. The word "alive" as a descriptor for the biosphere is a more valid claim than the biosphere matches non-life. When we compare the interactions of the biosphere to those objects we call life (like a cell),a virus, and non-life (from a rock to a computer) to see what the biosphere matches best the belief of the individual becomes irrelevant. It removes your set of beliefs (here atheism) like holding a twig next to a meter stick and recording the reading of 63.45 cm.
So, to neils point, we have a group of people that will not make the measurement to narrow down a range of reasonable conclusions. It doesn't matter how many of you won't make it, the fact that you didn't means you opinion is baseless. Science doesn't care. Science moves on to see if that claim will make predictions or we have to modify the claim.
I am only an atheist that does not practice atheism.
Nice church thread you guys got going on.
I wonder when they will try and force laws on other people ... oh wait ... to late.
"pointless" measurement means you guy don't really understand what a measurement is. To measure, we take and unknown and compare it to a standard. the standard has no meaning past "we all agree on it." If we can't agree the a cell represents what we call alive then who exactly is pointless? I also made it clear that the measurement is crude, but its better than none.
I figured you guys would run away, avoid, and dismiss so that your conclusions match your view of atheism. The word "alive" as a descriptor for the biosphere is a more valid claim than the biosphere matches non-life. When we compare the interactions of the biosphere to those objects we call life (like a cell),a virus, and non-life (from a rock to a computer) to see what the biosphere matches best the belief of the individual becomes irrelevant. It removes your set of beliefs (here atheism) like holding a twig next to a meter stick and recording the reading of 63.45 cm.
So, to neils point, we have a group of people that will not make the measurement to narrow down a range of reasonable conclusions. It doesn't matter how many of you won't make it, the fact that you didn't means you opinion is baseless. Science doesn't care. Science moves on to see if that claim will make predictions or we have to modify the claim.
I am only an atheist that does not practice atheism.
Nice church thread you guys got going on.
I wonder when they will try and force laws on other people ... oh wait ... to late.
anti-logical Fallacies of Ambiguity
