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The Argument for Islam is very Simple:
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RE: The Argument for Islam is very Simple:
(March 22, 2017 at 9:44 am)MysticKnight Wrote:
(March 22, 2017 at 3:51 am)Aoi Magi Wrote: Ok, so that proves hinduism is true by your definition, right MK?

Overall religions advocate to submit to God, so 1-3 proves that the claim we ought to submit to God to be true. So it proves in general, then the premises get more specific as to why 12ver Shiism is the correct one.

Simply advocating something doesn't make it true, and 1-3 are the claims (well, they are more like incoherent ramblings, but for arguments sake let's acknowledge it as claim), claims don't prove themselves, no matter how much you narrow them down. The claims that you think prove islam, I can provide similar "proof/claim" from hinduism, and hinduism being much older and broader has much more vague bs than islam. You need to realize philosophical ideas aren't proof of anything, and neither is the language or method you use to assert those claims. If you truly believe in the divine, ask the divine to convince the heathens here, and if that fails, please consider the remote possibility that maybe you are wrong.

(March 22, 2017 at 11:08 am)Astreja Wrote: although the Æsir and Vanir do appreciate being invited to parties and offered food and drink.

hmm.. I like that religion, but the names are lame... I'll pass

(March 22, 2017 at 12:37 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: Secularism exists because the followers of Abrahamic religions got into a hairy spot. So people got frustrated, and illumination became a fact.
With religions of this size, holes are easily taken advantage of. Who cares about the Quran when you got 16000 Hadiths?

That's why places like the Middle East have grudges that never are quenched, if somebody's religion is hate that is 1400 years old, or 2000 years old or heck: more; how is there any hopes for peace?

They will keep fighting forever.

The founding "prophet" tried peace, failed utterly, then moved on to violence, why would the followers be any peaceful?
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The Argument for Islam is very Simple: - by MysticKnight - March 21, 2017 at 7:37 am
RE: The Argument for Islam is very Simple: - by brewer - March 21, 2017 at 7:55 am
RE: The Argument for Islam is very Simple: - by Jesster - March 21, 2017 at 8:00 am
RE: The Argument for Islam is very Simple: - by Cyberman - March 21, 2017 at 8:07 am
RE: The Argument for Islam is very Simple: - by Jesster - March 21, 2017 at 8:09 am
RE: The Argument for Islam is very Simple: - by Athene - March 21, 2017 at 8:13 am
RE: The Argument for Islam is very Simple: - by Cyberman - March 21, 2017 at 8:19 am
RE: The Argument for Islam is very Simple: - by Athene - March 21, 2017 at 10:37 am
RE: The Argument for Islam is very Simple: - by Cyberman - March 21, 2017 at 1:32 pm
RE: The Argument for Islam is very Simple: - by Athene - March 21, 2017 at 1:48 pm
RE: The Argument for Islam is very Simple: - by Angrboda - March 21, 2017 at 9:05 am
RE: The Argument for Islam is very Simple: - by Chad32 - March 21, 2017 at 9:48 am
RE: The Argument for Islam is very Simple: - by vorlon13 - March 21, 2017 at 9:48 am
RE: The Argument for Islam is very Simple: - by Minimalist - March 21, 2017 at 11:42 am
RE: The Argument for Islam is very Simple: - by Alex K - March 21, 2017 at 12:04 pm
RE: The Argument for Islam is very Simple: - by Cyberman - March 21, 2017 at 1:55 pm
RE: The Argument for Islam is very Simple: - by Athene - March 21, 2017 at 2:20 pm
RE: The Argument for Islam is very Simple: - by Alex K - March 21, 2017 at 5:26 pm
RE: The Argument for Islam is very Simple: - by Crunchy - March 21, 2017 at 2:05 pm
RE: The Argument for Islam is very Simple: - by Crunchy - March 21, 2017 at 7:04 pm
RE: The Argument for Islam is very Simple: - by brewer - March 21, 2017 at 7:48 pm
RE: The Argument for Islam is very Simple: - by Jesster - March 21, 2017 at 7:13 pm
RE: The Argument for Islam is very Simple: - by Crunchy - March 22, 2017 at 5:49 pm
RE: The Argument for Islam is very Simple: - by Jesster - March 21, 2017 at 7:45 pm
RE: The Argument for Islam is very Simple: - by ignoramus - March 21, 2017 at 9:05 pm
RE: The Argument for Islam is very Simple: - by Astreja - March 21, 2017 at 11:08 pm
RE: The Argument for Islam is very Simple: - by Astreja - March 22, 2017 at 12:42 am
RE: The Argument for Islam is very Simple: - by WinterHold - March 22, 2017 at 12:37 pm
RE: The Argument for Islam is very Simple: - by Cyberman - March 22, 2017 at 5:20 am
RE: The Argument for Islam is very Simple: - by Jesster - March 22, 2017 at 12:36 am
RE: The Argument for Islam is very Simple: - by Aoi Magi - March 22, 2017 at 3:51 am
RE: The Argument for Islam is very Simple: - by Astreja - March 22, 2017 at 11:08 am
RE: The Argument for Islam is very Simple: - by Aoi Magi - March 22, 2017 at 12:55 pm
RE: The Argument for Islam is very Simple: - by Jesster - March 22, 2017 at 11:29 pm
RE: The Argument for Islam is very Simple: - by Jesster - March 22, 2017 at 11:37 pm
RE: The Argument for Islam is very Simple: - by Aoi Magi - March 23, 2017 at 2:25 am
RE: The Argument for Islam is very Simple: - by Jesster - March 22, 2017 at 10:10 am
RE: The Argument for Islam is very Simple: - by dyresand - March 22, 2017 at 10:13 am
RE: The Argument for Islam is very Simple: - by Jesster - March 22, 2017 at 11:27 pm
RE: The Argument for Islam is very Simple: - by Jesster - March 22, 2017 at 11:45 pm
RE: The Argument for Islam is very Simple: - by Jesster - March 22, 2017 at 11:54 pm
RE: The Argument for Islam is very Simple: - by Astreja - March 22, 2017 at 11:40 pm
RE: The Argument for Islam is very Simple: - by Cyberman - March 23, 2017 at 12:02 am
RE: The Argument for Islam is very Simple: - by Jesster - March 22, 2017 at 11:58 pm
RE: The Argument for Islam is very Simple: - by Ravenshire - March 23, 2017 at 11:26 pm
RE: The Argument for Islam is very Simple: - by Cyberman - March 23, 2017 at 12:04 am
RE: The Argument for Islam is very Simple: - by Crunchy - March 24, 2017 at 10:25 pm
RE: The Argument for Islam is very Simple: - by Minimalist - March 24, 2017 at 11:29 pm
RE: The Argument for Islam is very Simple: - by Crunchy - March 26, 2017 at 9:37 pm
RE: The Argument for Islam is very Simple: - by Minimalist - March 26, 2017 at 11:20 pm
RE: The Argument for Islam is very Simple: - by Crunchy - March 27, 2017 at 1:42 pm
RE: The Argument for Islam is very Simple: - by Mr Greene - March 27, 2017 at 4:18 am
RE: The Argument for Islam is very Simple: - by Fireball - March 26, 2017 at 11:15 pm

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