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are there different versions of the 10 commandments ?
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RE: are there different versions of the 10 commandments ?
(April 17, 2017 at 2:55 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: uh . . .  .


wut ?

Evidently Drich has an absurdly strict definition of "commandment." Apparently, if God promises something in return for following specific rules he lays out, it's a covenant, not a Commandment. He didn't explain why a covenant cannot contain commandments, especially given that a commandment is by definition "a divine rule". Presumably, by the exact logic he gives forth, the commandment to honor one's parents isn't a commandment because God promises a long life to those who follow it: “Honor your father and your mother, so that you may live long in the land the Lord your God is giving you." (Ex. 20:12)

And somehow, the other 603 rules He gave Moses don't count, either, because shut up.

And, for the record, I'm going to try and parse Exodus 34:27-8 for his benefit. It should be a pretty straightforward walkthrough:
Verse 27:
  • Then the Lord said to Moses, “Write these words, The previous verses.
  • for in accordance with these words See above.
  • I have made a covenant with you and with Israel.”  Yes, Moses does use the word covenant. For the purpose of this discussion, you seem to have drawn a strong line between "Covenant" and "Commandments" for the purpose of saying "Yes! The Bible really does support the Tradition after all!" even though it clearly doesn't.
Verse 28:
  • Moses was there with the Lord forty days and forty nights; he ate no bread and drank no water. Not going to bother with this clause here, it's irrelevant to the argument.
  •  And he wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant, the Ten Commandments. Notice: The words of the covenant, which would seem to be connected to the list just mentioned that was specifically referred to as "a covenant" are explicitly connected to the term "The Ten Commandments." 
Seriously, it should be a very straightforward verse to understand. Even the Amplified Bible eschews its trademark parenthetical explanations, synonyms, and references because the original text is, in this case, pretty straightforward. Contrary to tradition, The Ten Commandments, according to the book of Exodus, are not the classic list of Exodus 20, but the list of ten rules given in Exodus 34. And it's not like it's something that you can connect with some faulty manuscript: the vast majority of translations will use the term "Ten Commandments" to refer to the list in Exodus 34, and not a single one has ever used it (in the text, as opposed to chapter headings) to refer to the list in Exodus 20.

And now I simply have to ask: If Exodus 20 is the only true list of the Ten Commandments, why did Exodus 20 not call its list of ten rules "The Ten Commandments" but Exodus 34 calls its own list "The Ten Commandments?"
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RE: are there different versions of the 10 commandments ? - by Rev. Rye - April 17, 2017 at 7:02 pm

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