RE: morality is subjective and people don't have free will
May 16, 2017 at 2:11 pm
(This post was last modified: May 16, 2017 at 2:16 pm by Edwardo Piet.)
(May 16, 2017 at 2:06 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote:(May 16, 2017 at 2:02 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: But epistemic objective morality makes sense.
That's ridiculous. It's like saying you know all about something that doesn't exist.
You've already said that before and I've already answered it before:
(May 12, 2017 at 9:43 am)Alasdair Ham Wrote:(May 12, 2017 at 9:21 am)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: So you don't think it exist but you still know all about it. That doesn't even make sense.
I don't think what exist? What you said didn't even make sense.
Truth is different to existence... "2+2= 4" is true without there having to be an object that 'exists'...
(May 16, 2017 at 2:07 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: I don't care. Your arguments are invalid to me.
The fact you consider my arguments invalid to you personally is completely irrelevant to the matter of whether my conclusions are actually true.
Quote: Nope, didn't conflate
Yes you did. You asked me why I would bother to change if there's no free will. That's fatalism; not determinism. You conflated the two.
You don't even understand the difference between the two things you are conflating. Which is exactly why you are conflating them.
Quote:You believe that preceding events caused you to be who you are, not that all things are set. You can't change the past and causal events dictate, therefore you can't change.
Of course I can and do change. My motives are part of the causal stream that bring about changes in me.
You believe in the silly hocus pocus idea that our actions are "independent of" causality. You may as well believe in immaterial souls and magic.
