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morality is subjective and people don't have free will
RE: morality is subjective and people don't have free will
(May 17, 2017 at 11:07 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote:
(May 17, 2017 at 10:55 am)Shell B Wrote: I don't know why. Most of us don't spend hours debating free will and morality, so you've only got a small sample. Wink

Haha, true but I've started a few threads in the past that took the direction of touching on both of those things. I guess it is still true that most here do think morality is subjective, though only a few don't believe we have free will.

You are basing an observation off a really small sample.  Many people even in this very thread haven't stated their position.  I actually only see 2 non-theists who have stated they believe in free-will in this thread.  The rest have stated determinism or have not said either way.

There was a poll a while back, here and it only had 14 respondents total (still pretty small), but you can see that free-will and hard determinism are tied. And every theist who responded chose free-will, making determinism the more common, though certainly not universal, position in atheists who responded to that poll, at least.

(May 17, 2017 at 12:06 pm)mh.brewer Wrote:
(May 17, 2017 at 11:54 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: This goes here somewhere....

bold mine

This, thanks Jor, couldn't have said it better.

Factors in your control does not mean you freely chose them.  Just that you control them.  Control =/= choice.
“Eternity is a terrible thought. I mean, where's it going to end?” 
― Tom StoppardRosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Dead
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RE: morality is subjective and people don't have free will - by Aroura - May 17, 2017 at 12:20 pm

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