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morality is subjective and people don't have free will
RE: morality is subjective and people don't have free will
I got curious so I googled the question of whether animals do or do not have free will. One of the results was from a Catholic forum where someone asks this question specifically:

https://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=452159

Thought it was interesting.

(May 17, 2017 at 4:34 pm)Aroura Wrote:
(May 17, 2017 at 4:28 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I don't think computers have free will lol. They are machines, designed to respond in certain ways you certain commands. They don't have the ability to understand consequences and right from wrong.

Wait, so understanding consequences and telling right from wrong are required for free will?  Or was it thinking at rationality?  Or sentience?

You said you thought animals have some level of free-will.
Can a pig tell right from wrong at any level, and who determines that for the pig?

Edited to add, what if computers someday show all of the above?

Let's say we tell it a is right, b is wrong (Like Asimovs laws of robotics or something), and they become sentient, that is aware of their own existence, and they can think and reason rationally, would they have free-will then?....Hypothetically of course.

I have no idea lol. I can't even fathom a machine being sentient, so it's hard to tell what that would entail.
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RE: morality is subjective and people don't have free will - by Catholic_Lady - May 17, 2017 at 4:44 pm

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