(May 22, 2017 at 8:25 pm)Regina Wrote: Personally I struggle to understand the amount of atheists who talk about morality being subjective too
There are certain aspects of morality that are, but I think they concern smaller trivial things, like whether it's justified to be rude to people if you're having a bad day or if spending your own money on useless shit you want rather than need is ok. It can also concern what is considered to be the "correct" consequence for a certain action.
When it comes to bigger shit like murder, rape and child molestation though, those are pretty objectively fucking bad. I don't know how anyone can sit there and say there's any subjectivity on that, and that those things can be acceptable within the context of "culture" or a different "societal opinion". Are you going to willingly submit to your own murder and suddenly feel good about having a knife thrust into your stomach, because the person doing it to you thinks it's morally right? Ugh no.
I think it's a simple misunderstanding. That moral disagreement exists is a fact. This moral disagreement is subjective morality regardless of whether or not there is an objective morality.
IRL, those points of contention often regard what is or is not any of those three things. Just because moral disagreement exists, that doesn't mean I have to accept contradictory moral value judgements. That's kind of why moral disagreement exists in the first place. OFC I'm not going to submit to the societal opinion of some nutjob that bloodgod is righteously thirsty, but they do exist.
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