(July 3, 2017 at 8:43 am)YouOnlyLiveTwice Wrote: There's nothing "high-class" about using scientific metrics proving something. That is an objective, empirical way of proving something that can be commonly observed by the rest of us. Science has never been about a separate elite class; their claims are always open to valid dispute from anyone and are only considered proven if they can be reached through objective observation available to anyone.
On the other hand, there is something intrinsically "high-class" about religious metrics, which often involve personal internal revelations which are common only to a select few and appear to be arbitrarily absent from those who don't share the same faith. If a belief in the faith is required to gain one access to evidence of any sort as to the existence of God or the veracity of the religion's claims, then there's a select "high-class" involved — those not of the faith are excluded from the possibility of attaining relevant evidence. That is not the case with science, where the evidence is always open for all to see and nobody is excluded from observing or disputing scientific processes.
The difference between the "earthly" and "heavenly" ruling realms is that the former is able to proven through universally empirical means, while the latter is a claim forwarded by ancient scriptures and traditions completely devoid of any universal or empirical basis.
I wish you are right and the scientific 'high-class' doesn't exist, practically speaking.
Don't you recall how Galileo was treated for presenting his new scientific discoveries?
One may say that this example doesn't hold because the scientists in his time were rather religious and he liked to prove what was against their teachings.
About 10 years ago, I wrote an article about the real story of the beginning of AIDS and for which reason almost all systems in the world were instructed to contribute in its propaganda, at all levels and in the same period(s) of time. When a journalist, a friend of mine, read it, he was surprised how it was clear and rational while showing many hidden truths of what is known universally as AIDS. He decided to print it on a local paper. But after a few days, he came back to tell me that this article, if printed, would upset, to a great extent, the religious elite of all known religions, local and abroad. Naturally, we decided to keep its info for ourselves and for those we personally care of. But, also behind the approved stories of AIDS, claimed being true and real, there are powerful/rich families around the world, not necessarily religious, that are ready, anytime and at any cost, to silence any voice which can reveal openly what AIDS is about really.
Also, about 40 years ago, my MS thesis in data/signal communications was about a solution which proved the opposite of what all universities (faculties in communications) in the world teach their undergraduates, even in these days. I even used it, in the 80's, in my short-range private RF links to make the transmitted voice signals secure (since, at that time, there was no receiver to demodulate my signals; even today, such a receiver is costly and complex if it exists). But my simple reliable solution has to die with me because it is not easy for me, from where I live, to contact a member of the world's scientific 'high-class' who is also interested in exploring a new topology which, as claimed worldwide, cannot exist.
This is why, I personally don't see a big difference among those who are in charge of today's religions, politics and even science. But this is just me.
Kerim
