(August 2, 2017 at 11:47 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:(August 2, 2017 at 8:50 pm)tjakey Wrote: Though I have been an atheist for many years now I was, like many, raised in the christian religion. Lately I have begun to wonder if there will be an American version of Dietrich Bonhoeffer; at least one semi-well-know christian leader who will challenge the American christians who worship and support the Der Trumpster. Maybe the time for such has past, with virtually every flavor of christian ideology now too deeply corrupted to engender any real opposition to greed and selfishness.
And it is an open question; if such a person should step up and bring with them a sizable contingent of like minded believers, would those of us who are already jaded when it come to anything religious be too skeptical to accept them as allies when it comes to opposing Trump and the Republican Party?
I don't give a shit about anyone's beliefs so long as they are decent.
And if they're not decent, all the other agreements in the world we might have won't get me cottoning to them.
And yet, don't people's beliefs go a long way in determining if they are decent or not? And "decent" doesn't really carry much weight in many issues. A person can be "decent" and still be anti-science, anti-facts, and anti-truth. Are they still decent when voting in people who openly trash the environment for profit because all of the "science" stuff is a left wing conspiracy?
It is an argument I struggle with because I know a lot of "decent" people who hold to ideologies that make room for a lot of evil and, at this point, am having trouble with the idea that any "decent" person could support the Republican party and its support of Donald Trump. On a purely personal basis I know them to be decent, but I don't think history is going to be so kind.
