(August 12, 2017 at 6:40 pm)Jehanne Wrote:(August 12, 2017 at 12:34 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: China will not defend North Korea from just any attack. They will only defend North Korea to prevent it from collapsing and merging with South Korea or become occupied by US forces.
If the regime collapse is brought about by means other than land invasion by the US or South Korea, there is not necessarily any large amount of room for armed conflict between the US and china even if the Chinese does intervene militarily in Korea.
The first major step of their intervention is unlikely to involve start shooting at the US. Rather they will likely deploy their air and ground assets into northern parts of North Korea, declare it off limits to the US, and dare the US to shoot at them first.
It's unlikely events will simply go out of control and the conflict escalate by itself into a way between the US and china. Rather both sides will have to specifically want that conflict for the conflict to occur. Either side can attain its own core objective while offering the other side opportunity to climb down without embrassement.
Of course we do have trump. But.....
I don't believe in crystal balls; no one knows, for sure, what will happen if war breaks out between the US & China. Russia may decide to get involved and simply launch a first strike. It's difficult to tell. Besides, people on this board and elsewhere believe that the United States can steam-roll over North Korea as we did in Iraq, and I don't think that such is even something that professional war analysts would consider realistic, and of course, their information is, for the most part, completely classified.
No I think while some here have a Dirty Harry we will win attitude, most here realize that North Korea is not Iraq or Afghanistan. If we go to war with them, even without a nuclear war, it will be far more bloody. But the risk of WW3 and a nuclear war is far greater this time.
If China gets involved against us the only thing that would prevent a nuclear war is if both sides agree not to use them. Nukes existed in the last Korean war, but this time I don't think you can assume Un or Trump understand what mutual destruction means.