What distinguishes a fantasy book from the bible?

[The Grand Nudger]

On the contrary, all you have done here is engage in intellectual laziness. You just simply do not understand how the burden of proof works here; you are claiming the Bible is a work of fiction, something completely contrary to what it claims to be. Since you are the one not taking the Bible at its own word you are the one who has to justify this. The burden of proof falls equally on both sides once people take a position. You took the position it was fantasy, Emmanuel took the position it was what it says it is.


I think it is more complex than just saying “God did it”, but there are certain truths that cannot be explained by purely natural occurrences and I believe require the God of the Bible. Ruling out certain explanations before you have even looked at the problem seems to me ridiculous (Naturalism), it would be like saying, “Before I solve this physics problem I am prohibiting the use of odd numbers.”

(I'm well aware that you would like the burden of proof to work differently with regards to your beliefs....however)

Lets follow the chain of claims in your own sentence:
Bible claims to be fact
Rhythm says prove it.
Bible thumper says bible doesn't have to prove anything.

Your a midget.

Now show me things which require god, point to them. Or are you engaging in fantasy.....again.

I didn't write your religious book, I'm not responsible for the workings of the world. If it bothers you, go out and educate yourself. There is Christianity beyond the literal. That you cannot engage in a conversation based on evidence could be said to be twofold. Firstly, you have no evidence, secondly, your religious beliefs elevate ignorance to a virtue, and so there is a very real incentive for you to avoid even looking, or at the very least to hand-wave the whole thing away and say "faith alone".

This worldview belongs in a dark cave, nowhere near where my children, or anyone for that matter, will have to grow up and live. This type of position takes the exclusionary principle so far that it becomes inclusionary. Everything that doesn't agree with it is wrong, or evil, or valueless. So we have an endless parade of people making their way to the forums who cannot discern the difference between things like science and atheism. They want to argue that anything other than their world view is evil, and all evil is the product of that which is outside of their worldview. It's pathetic. To top it off, we have people like you, who come in with "supporting arguments" that just feed the flames of pessimism amongst a certain subset that believes we're doomed for different reasons. The entirety of the human experience turned into one massive, mouth-breathing joke. Fuck anyone who defends this type reasoning, and fuck the horse they rode in under, no matter what deity they chose to name it after.

(edited for clarity)