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RationalWiki article on Craig.
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RE: RationalWiki article on Craig.
(August 28, 2017 at 3:36 pm)Jehanne Wrote:
(August 28, 2017 at 3:17 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: If that is your definition of a great leader then Charles Manson is a great leader... Dodgy  Leading your followers astray is the very definition of a bad leader.

I think the word you're looking for is charismatic.

"Great":

Definition of great
  1. 1a :  notably large in size :  huge all creatures [i]great and small[/i]b :  of a kind characterized by relative largeness —used in plant and animal names the [i]great horned owl[/i]celaborate, ample [i]great detail[/i]
  2. 2a :  large in number or measure :  numerous [i]great multitudes[/i]bpredominant the [i]great majority[/i]
  3. 3 :  remarkable in magnitude, degree, or effectiveness [i]great bloodshed[/i]
  4. 4 :  full of emotion [i]great with anger[/i]
  5. 5aeminent, distinguished a [i]great poet[/i]b :  chief or preeminent over others —often used in titles Lord [i]Great Chamberlain[/i]caristocratic, grand [i]great ladies[/i]
  6. 6 :  long continued a [i]great while[/i]
  7. 7principal, main a reception in the [i]great hall[/i]
  8. 8 :  more remote in a family relationship by a single generation than a specified relative [i]great-grandfather[/i]
  9. 9 :  markedly superior in character or quality; especiallynoble [i]great of soul[/i]
  10. 10a :  remarkably skilled [i]great at tennis[/i]b :  marked by enthusiasm :  keen [i]great on science fiction[/i]
  11. 11 —used as a generalized term of approval had a [i]great time[/i] it was just [i]great[/i]
greatness
noun

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/great

I would say that I was referring to #3 -- "charismatic bloodshed" does not seem like a very expressive term to me.  And, yes, Charles Manson was a "great leader", albeit, on a very small scale.

Obviously the word great is contextual, and somehow you managed to highlight every definition other than the one that applies to the context we're using...

10a :  remarkably skilled

Hitler WAS NOT a 'remarkably skilled' leader.
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RationalWiki article on Craig. - by Jehanne - August 25, 2017 at 1:58 pm
RE: RationalWiki article on Craig. - by Astonished - August 25, 2017 at 2:06 pm
RE: RationalWiki article on Craig. - by Minimalist - August 25, 2017 at 2:22 pm
RE: RationalWiki article on Craig. - by Amarok - August 25, 2017 at 2:26 pm
RE: RationalWiki article on Craig. - by The Grand Nudger - August 25, 2017 at 2:33 pm
RE: RationalWiki article on Craig. - by Jehanne - August 25, 2017 at 2:38 pm
RE: RationalWiki article on Craig. - by The Grand Nudger - August 25, 2017 at 2:46 pm
RE: RationalWiki article on Craig. - by Astonished - August 25, 2017 at 2:57 pm
RE: RationalWiki article on Craig. - by Minimalist - August 25, 2017 at 2:56 pm
RE: RationalWiki article on Craig. - by The Grand Nudger - August 25, 2017 at 3:01 pm
RE: RationalWiki article on Craig. - by Astonished - August 25, 2017 at 3:06 pm
RE: RationalWiki article on Craig. - by The Grand Nudger - August 25, 2017 at 3:29 pm
RE: RationalWiki article on Craig. - by Astonished - August 25, 2017 at 3:36 pm
RE: RationalWiki article on Craig. - by Cyberman - August 26, 2017 at 7:19 am
RE: RationalWiki article on Craig. - by Crossless2.0 - August 26, 2017 at 8:00 am
RE: RationalWiki article on Craig. - by Edwardo Piet - August 25, 2017 at 3:57 pm
RE: RationalWiki article on Craig. - by Jehanne - August 25, 2017 at 4:11 pm
RE: RationalWiki article on Craig. - by Astonished - August 26, 2017 at 3:40 pm
RE: RationalWiki article on Craig. - by Edwardo Piet - August 25, 2017 at 4:16 pm
RE: RationalWiki article on Craig. - by Jehanne - August 25, 2017 at 4:19 pm
RE: RationalWiki article on Craig. - by Edwardo Piet - August 25, 2017 at 4:23 pm
RE: RationalWiki article on Craig. - by Jehanne - August 25, 2017 at 4:26 pm
RE: RationalWiki article on Craig. - by Edwardo Piet - August 25, 2017 at 4:37 pm
RE: RationalWiki article on Craig. - by Jehanne - August 25, 2017 at 4:53 pm
RE: RationalWiki article on Craig. - by The Grand Nudger - August 25, 2017 at 5:02 pm
RE: RationalWiki article on Craig. - by Edwardo Piet - August 25, 2017 at 5:28 pm
RE: RationalWiki article on Craig. - by Alex K - August 25, 2017 at 5:30 pm
RE: RationalWiki article on Craig. - by Jehanne - August 25, 2017 at 5:30 pm
RE: RationalWiki article on Craig. - by Edwardo Piet - August 25, 2017 at 5:36 pm
RE: RationalWiki article on Craig. - by The Grand Nudger - August 25, 2017 at 6:25 pm
RE: RationalWiki article on Craig. - by LadyForCamus - August 25, 2017 at 10:06 pm
RE: RationalWiki article on Craig. - by The Grand Nudger - August 26, 2017 at 10:35 am
RE: RationalWiki article on Craig. - by Jehanne - August 26, 2017 at 1:35 pm
RE: RationalWiki article on Craig. - by The Grand Nudger - August 26, 2017 at 2:10 pm
RE: RationalWiki article on Craig. - by Edwardo Piet - August 26, 2017 at 2:11 pm
RE: RationalWiki article on Craig. - by The Grand Nudger - August 26, 2017 at 2:14 pm
RE: RationalWiki article on Craig. - by Edwardo Piet - August 26, 2017 at 7:31 pm
RE: RationalWiki article on Craig. - by Jehanne - August 26, 2017 at 7:39 pm
RE: RationalWiki article on Craig. - by Astonished - August 26, 2017 at 8:08 pm
RE: RationalWiki article on Craig. - by Edwardo Piet - August 27, 2017 at 8:38 am
RE: RationalWiki article on Craig. - by Astonished - August 27, 2017 at 11:51 pm
RE: RationalWiki article on Craig. - by Edwardo Piet - August 28, 2017 at 12:04 pm
RE: RationalWiki article on Craig. - by Jehanne - August 28, 2017 at 12:44 pm
RE: RationalWiki article on Craig. - by The Grand Nudger - August 27, 2017 at 11:54 pm
RE: RationalWiki article on Craig. - by Astonished - August 28, 2017 at 12:25 am
RE: RationalWiki article on Craig. - by Rev. Rye - August 28, 2017 at 12:13 am
RE: RationalWiki article on Craig. - by Jehanne - August 28, 2017 at 12:00 pm
RE: RationalWiki article on Craig. - by CapnAwesome - August 28, 2017 at 1:17 pm
RE: RationalWiki article on Craig. - by Jehanne - August 28, 2017 at 1:43 pm
RE: RationalWiki article on Craig. - by Huggy Bear - August 28, 2017 at 1:52 pm
RE: RationalWiki article on Craig. - by Jehanne - August 28, 2017 at 2:00 pm
RE: RationalWiki article on Craig. - by Huggy Bear - August 28, 2017 at 3:17 pm
RE: RationalWiki article on Craig. - by Jehanne - August 28, 2017 at 3:36 pm
RE: RationalWiki article on Craig. - by Huggy Bear - August 28, 2017 at 3:58 pm
RE: RationalWiki article on Craig. - by CapnAwesome - September 5, 2017 at 12:31 pm
RE: RationalWiki article on Craig. - by Cyberman - August 28, 2017 at 5:28 pm
RE: RationalWiki article on Craig. - by Astonished - August 28, 2017 at 8:37 pm

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