(September 1, 2017 at 11:37 pm)Court Jester Wrote:(September 1, 2017 at 11:15 pm)Brian37 Wrote: No, as I said in my prior post in this thread. I would be nice to have the luxury of ignoring the sickos, but the problem for the past 8 years but especially since Trump took the mask of the GOP dog whistle talk, we are now dealing with sickos whom feel politically emboldened.
You wouldn't call a Muslim terrorist slamming a car into pedestrians stupid, you would call them rightfully terrorists. A defenseless protester died because someone sick fucks sold that sick fuck the idea his "whiteness" was an endangered species.
Calling white nationalists stupid is a mistake. You can be stupid, and motivated and dangerous at the same time.
One asshole who was part of that rally afterwards was asked if he was sorry she died, he said no. That sick fuck is as bad as ISIS to me. Heather Heyer was UNARMED and protesting peacefully against the bullshit idea that there is a master race. Trump would claim his rhetoric was not responsible. I say he was, because he was not a no name he was throwing red meat to the far right and using political office to do it. If you go to White Nationalist websites such as the KKK or Neo Nazis or even individuals whom support that, you will find 99% support Trump.
When you show up with weapons of war you are not simply advocating free speech, your intent is to show dominance no different than ISIS.
It's not as much a luxury to ignor them as it is a choice. I would actually argue a wiser choice.
Arguing them is never going to change their mind, so protesting is a total waist of time and effort. Actually creates the head shaking of many people looking at both sides. I'm married to a black woman. I tend to have black family members around the house. It's not uncommon for them to watch the news and see a screen full of white people fighting over racism and here "what the fuck is wrong with those people". And they aren't referring to the racist degenerates.
I'd actually much rather flipping on the news and hear "Welcome to channel 59 news. In news today; there was a KKK rally in Indianapolis today. No one gave a shit. In other news....".
The argument builds their platform. It doesn't hurt it at all. Why argue a message that no one even listens to?
Bullshit, ignoring them is what allowed 45 to win the nomination and scapegoat and vilify his way to his win. I'm sorry but this is not politics as usual. It literally IS because of Trump emboldening these sickos over the past 5 years. Indianapolis like Boston is blue, Charlottesville is red, big difference. None of what you just argued changes our past. I am tired of this bullshit that "that cant happen here", it did, in CHARLOTTEVILLE. And racism has deep roots in our nation unfortunately. Like I told CL, we had at one point a majority CONGRESS that were KKK members.
45 is pandering to the scum of America. When fascism infects politics along with racism, it is not something you can simply ignore. Germany did that to the tune of costing 6 million Jews lives and 50 million civilians and soldiers on all sided by the end of the war.
If you think 45 or the KKK or Nazis should not be taken seriously, then you have FAILED to head the lessons of history. Damned fucking right I take them seriously because they are now a real threat to national security and western pluralism. YES IT CAN HAPPEN HERE and it has in the past. That is not paranoia on my part, it is knowing that when humans left unchecked with a vile politician egging them on, bad things can and do happen.
You have megga preachers even threatening civil war if 45 gets impeached. This is no joke or game. Now is not the time to ignore them, now is the time to put our foot down.
