RE: Did Charlottesvilel mean anything?
September 3, 2017 at 7:39 am
(This post was last modified: September 3, 2017 at 7:59 am by bennyboy.)
(September 2, 2017 at 10:14 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:(September 2, 2017 at 9:41 pm)bennyboy Wrote: I don't think trump said he believes in white supremacy, did he?
Does it matter if the message is explicit or implicit?
Just because a point has been inferred doesn't mean it was implied.
(September 2, 2017 at 7:22 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: LOl no
Great argument. Unless I can find a funnier meme than yours, I'll have to concede the philosophical point I was trying to make.
(September 2, 2017 at 10:44 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: He said those opposing white supremacy is as bad as those who advocate it.
Saying those who oppose murder is as bad as those who murder does not seem to imply the speaker believe in the sanctity of life.
First of all, I don't believe he ever said that. Second, what's this "those?" How many people were driving that vehicle?
(September 2, 2017 at 11:49 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: No benny it's you who is wrong and ignorant . You honestly are trying to compare a religion with a few loons to Fucking hate movement . And yes they are evil benny . And your solution is absurd . This is how you deal with white nationalism .And it works.Look, there's a constitution, there are laws, and there is due process. In attempting to group and then demonize the group, you intend to bypass all moral argumentation or debate. If America takes this rout, it will bring infinitely more grief than a hundred guys in their Halloween costumes.
https://atheistforums.org/thread-50972-page-9.html (post 85 )
Quote:Not a violent ideaology then clearly you have not read the White nationalist pop literature by some of the very people who oganized this rally . Or looked into the people who started this rally most of how have a history of violence .Look, either you will abide by jurisprudence and by the constitution, or you will decide that some groups are so right in their thinking, and some so wrong, that the rights of the latter no longer matter. You are trying very hard to argue for the latter, not being clever enough to realize that this is exactly how fascism takes hold.
Is Black Genocide Right?by Richard Spencer (his answer is yes)
If it was a Black Lives Matter group or an Islamic group we were talking about, I'd say the same thing. I don't necessarily agree wholly with the sentiments of either group, but I will fight to the death for their right to speak their minds, for them to be subject only to the normal course of law, and for them not to be tried in the court of public opinion for guilt by association.
Quote:Earlier today, a right-wing gathering at the local Walmart ended with Christopher Cantwell, a white nationalist speaker at Unite the Right who was once quoted as saying, “[L]et’s fucking gas the kikes and have a race war,” pulled a gun on a customer who confronted them in the parking lot. Police surrounded his followers within minutes but then allowed them to reconvene in McIntire Park.If Christopher Cantwell is inciting to riot, then maybe he should be put in jail. What does this have to do with anyone else who was protesting the removal of the statue in Charlottesville? Were they chanting "Gas the kikes?"
(September 3, 2017 at 5:00 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: Imagine that had been a pro ISIS rally. with armed ISIS supporters marching through the street demanding sharia law and then killing a protester do you think Trump would have said there were good people on both sides!
No by not condemning these people he showed tacit approval.
Oh and ISIS have not carried out as many terror attacks in the US as white supremacists.
Let's just go straight to the point and make them witches. Would Trump have refused to condemn witches?